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Ken Burch

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50. At least those invertentions were meant to liberate people from oppression.

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 06:05 PM

Nov 2016

They happened in places where there was no hope whatsoever of change by democratic means".

No US military intervention anywhere since 1945 has had truly positive intent.

Even Kosovo was mainly about geopolitics and sending a message to Russia.

Forcibly switching countries to market economies never makes life better for the majority in those countries. The result is always a massive increase in inequality, a huge number of people being forced to lose everything for no reason, the rise in the grassroots and institutional bigotry that are always linked to capitalism(a system that cannot tolerate a bigotry-free society).

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Why are people getting all bent out of shape over Castro dying? [View all] bravenak Nov 2016 OP

I was called a sick troll for what I said about Castro. William769 Nov 2016 #1

I found that kinda over the top response to you strange as hell. bravenak Nov 2016 #6

Some in the world are evil, they are just plain evil, and now one less! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2016 #52

Complex character. ucrdem Nov 2016 #2

Idealism is always inspiring to the half that feels inspired bravenak Nov 2016 #10

It couldn't last but for a while Cuba was a model of egalitarianism. ucrdem Nov 2016 #15

wasn't that because of the backing of the soviet union ? and once the soviet union started to fall JI7 Nov 2016 #16

Yes there was that. ucrdem Nov 2016 #18

"Communism" and "Shortages" are not synonymous..... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #29

Some people have a natural aversion to Riftaxe Nov 2016 #3

Anti-American and or Anti-Western equals Fucking Awesome Revolutionary Bro Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2016 #4

Somehow in my lifetime none of that has applied Riftaxe Nov 2016 #5

Truly, and it is a shame bravenak Nov 2016 #7

Do you have anything you would like to relate Riftaxe Nov 2016 #8

I'm not ACTUALLY indicating that he was not evil, just wondering why we have folks here attacking bravenak Nov 2016 #9

On that we can disagree Riftaxe Nov 2016 #11

There's no good reason for anyone in Latin America to be "Pro-American". Ken Burch Nov 2016 #13

Good lord! Riftaxe Nov 2016 #14

If we had left Cuba alone, those things wouldn't have happened. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #19

How far back are you going? Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2016 #21

Something the Cuban people never wanted. They wanted independence. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #25

There is no good reason to celebrate any crackpot dictator for their spoken word performances Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2016 #17

... Riftaxe Nov 2016 #22

Few, if any of the "anticommunists" wanted a decent, progressive future for the world. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #23

Is that what the Soviet Union offered? Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2016 #27

No. Deep repression, but not starvation. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #41

"Anticommunists" is a euphemism for "Fascists" - I met a few of them in the 60's. Zen Democrat Nov 2016 #36

I like Daniel Ortega. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2016 #39

I did, too. But he borrowed to some degree from the Cuban model Ken Burch Nov 2016 #40

... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2016 #42

I agree with what you said there. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #46

who is "we" ? thare latin americans who have become US Citizens JI7 Nov 2016 #20

The memo must be late Riftaxe Nov 2016 #26

Most of the Latin Americans who have become American citizens are from Mexico Ken Burch Nov 2016 #48

And how many times did the US try to kill him malaise Nov 2016 #31

Though the Cuban interventions in Africa and South America were somehow fine Recursion Nov 2016 #38

At least those invertentions were meant to liberate people from oppression. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #50

You nailed it. MicaelS Nov 2016 #44

It is likely you wil get a split response on this Riftaxe Nov 2016 #12

it's not an age thing JI7 Nov 2016 #24

And you're showing that you... a la izquierda Nov 2016 #32

nice ageism! Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #33

Most of what we know about Castro is propaganda. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #28

one less communist dictatorship. stonecutter357 Nov 2016 #30

Even though he turned everything over to his brother I was happy Thinkingabout Nov 2016 #34

There will be "history" written today. annabanana Nov 2016 #35

With Trump gaining power, Cuba is looking better and better. Zen Democrat Nov 2016 #37

Sometimes I just don't understand DU. SaschaHM Nov 2016 #43

Taking the bait to say that Castro exists because the USA has dominated Cuba for two flamingdem Nov 2016 #45

Very interesting bravenak Nov 2016 #51

I will send you some good information - balanced I think flamingdem Nov 2016 #53

That's cool, thank you, I will read it bravenak Nov 2016 #54

If you get CNN right now they're doing a Cuba program with Anthony Bourdain flamingdem Nov 2016 #55

There are parts of it online flamingdem Nov 2016 #56

Thank you bravenak Nov 2016 #57

Here's one: Black Radicals Owe a Great Deal to Fidel Castro flamingdem Nov 2016 #58

That was an awesome article bravenak Nov 2016 #59

To understand what went wrong the book Back Channel to Cuba is a good read flamingdem Nov 2016 #60

Go and study who really fought against apartheid malaise Nov 2016 #47

Don't get mad. I really want to know. bravenak Nov 2016 #49

Not mad malaise Nov 2016 #61