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Ken Burch

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24. How about the U.S. Constitution? The Electoral College effectively vetoes alternative parties.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 08:25 PM
Nov 2016

Last edited Sun Nov 27, 2016, 09:09 PM - Edit history (1)

It makes it impossible for other parties to have any real chance in presidential elections.

So do the laws banning fusion voting and mandating the "first-past-the-post" electoral system rather than proportional representation.

Both of these give the status quo a veto over the development of new parties, which is effectively the same thing as giving the Democratic and Republican parties themselves a veto, since the two major parties and the rich are the only beneficiaries of the current political order. That order represents nothing but powerlessness and hopelessness for most of the people who vote for our party.

I say all of that as a person who wants THIS party to renew itself by being the party of everyone who has no say in this society-a group that, if actually given a reason to think it was worth their time to vote, would represent a huge majority for the kind of change this party exists to achieve.

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so why didn't they hold the elections after the fall of the soviet union ? JI7 Nov 2016 #1
1) By that time, the mindset was already entrenched; Ken Burch Nov 2016 #5
Because US Imperialism continues? Cooley Hurd Nov 2016 #7
Of course it does. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #26
I just got back from a Cuba trip to see some family. Mika Nov 2016 #2
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What are you going on about? Mika Nov 2016 #9
Sorry. I misinterpreted your posts. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #10
We're cool. Mika Nov 2016 #11
Thanks. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #12
The US was only concerned if Cuba was fully privatized JonLP24 Nov 2016 #4
Thank you for this post. 🤗 pangaia Nov 2016 #13
My daughters were just there for two weeks. Rented a car and drove around the whole country DFW Nov 2016 #14
There are elections in Cuba malaise Nov 2016 #15
But not free and open elections. hack89 Nov 2016 #16
Which party is allowed to oppose capitalism in the US? malaise Nov 2016 #17
Green Party. Communist party. Party for Socialism and Liberation. hack89 Nov 2016 #18
The Green party and Party for Socialism and Liberation malaise Nov 2016 #19
Stop evading the question hack89 Nov 2016 #20
What exactly is Democracy? malaise Nov 2016 #21
Peaceful transition of power between groups with different political and economic ideologies hack89 Nov 2016 #22
That "test" was something the US kept failing in its relationship with Latin America, Ken Burch Nov 2016 #23
Given Castro's prolific interventions in other countries hack89 Nov 2016 #25
How about the U.S. Constitution? The Electoral College effectively vetoes alternative parties. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #24
None. Capitalism is the underlying framework for the governmental system. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #27
I really think "whataboutism" is one of our worst rhetorical tendencies forjusticethunders Nov 2016 #28
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