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forjusticethunders

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28. I really think "whataboutism" is one of our worst rhetorical tendencies

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 12:00 PM

Nov 2016

Castro did progressive things for his people but he was also a repressive dictator. Was he better than Batista? Of course. Should his positive accomplishments be celebrated? Yes. But we should never forget that he was a repressive dictator. And the fact is, while the threat of the US employing democratic processes to overthrow the Revolution was there, that's what organizing work is for. Fidel was more than capable of organizing democratic resistance to a right-wing power grab while allowing free elections and dissent, he just chose not to.

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Fidel Castro took a repressive path. US imperial arrogance drove him to it. [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2016 OP

so why didn't they hold the elections after the fall of the soviet union ? JI7 Nov 2016 #1

1) By that time, the mindset was already entrenched; Ken Burch Nov 2016 #5

Because US Imperialism continues? Cooley Hurd Nov 2016 #7

Of course it does. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #26

I just got back from a Cuba trip to see some family. Mika Nov 2016 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Nov 2016 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author Mika Nov 2016 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Nov 2016 #8

What are you going on about? Mika Nov 2016 #9

Sorry. I misinterpreted your posts. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #10

We're cool. Mika Nov 2016 #11

Thanks. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #12

The US was only concerned if Cuba was fully privatized JonLP24 Nov 2016 #4

Thank you for this post. 🤗 pangaia Nov 2016 #13

My daughters were just there for two weeks. Rented a car and drove around the whole country DFW Nov 2016 #14

There are elections in Cuba malaise Nov 2016 #15

But not free and open elections. hack89 Nov 2016 #16

Which party is allowed to oppose capitalism in the US? malaise Nov 2016 #17

Green Party. Communist party. Party for Socialism and Liberation. hack89 Nov 2016 #18

The Green party and Party for Socialism and Liberation malaise Nov 2016 #19

Stop evading the question hack89 Nov 2016 #20

What exactly is Democracy? malaise Nov 2016 #21

Peaceful transition of power between groups with different political and economic ideologies hack89 Nov 2016 #22

That "test" was something the US kept failing in its relationship with Latin America, Ken Burch Nov 2016 #23

Given Castro's prolific interventions in other countries hack89 Nov 2016 #25

How about the U.S. Constitution? The Electoral College effectively vetoes alternative parties. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #24

None. Capitalism is the underlying framework for the governmental system. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #27

I really think "whataboutism" is one of our worst rhetorical tendencies forjusticethunders Nov 2016 #28