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anarch

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10. humanitarian missions could largely supplant the current military-industrial profit center
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 10:51 PM
Nov 2016

In a mixed economy, that is (that kind of profit would be sort of meaningless in a purely socialist arrangement). Government contractors could make plenty of profit supporting aid delivery and infrastructure construction efforts...swords into ploughshares, kinda.

Ideally (again, just in my opinion), the bulk of human employees that would need to be kept in line would be almost completely eliminated, if we can develop advanced enough AI in combination with automated production methods. All human labor would be voluntary...

The problem I see is that our current concept of wealth depends on a certain relative position of privilege in society as compared to others. If we didn't have poverty, we couldn't have extreme wealth either...and somehow or other extreme wealth became a thing that people strive for.

To me, it's always boiled down to the question of whether we want to cooperate and live together as a society, or if we want it to be everyone for themselves, just a fight for survival. People generally always find some way to create problems rather than working on solutions to the problems we already have. Maybe someday we will evolve.

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A universal income? What a Marxist idea. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #1
Yes Marxist :D :D JHan Nov 2016 #2
Yep. JHan Nov 2016 #8
The GOP loves to frame unemployment and/or underemployment guillaumeb Nov 2016 #19
eventually, this pretty much has to be the answer anarch Nov 2016 #3
In my view, the reason that this idea is anathema to todays Libertarian driven GOP guillaumeb Nov 2016 #4
We'll just quote Hayek right back at them.. JHan Nov 2016 #9
I respond with #8. eom guillaumeb Nov 2016 #20
humanitarian missions could largely supplant the current military-industrial profit center anarch Nov 2016 #10
And as others have pointed out, guillaumeb Nov 2016 #21
There's a quote I remember from Jacques Attali about 20 years ago (still true): hatrack Nov 2016 #5
I have always believed that providing a universal minimum income... mike_c Nov 2016 #6
thanks for sharing your story mike.. JHan Nov 2016 #12
who/what provides the revenue stream that WhiteTara Nov 2016 #7
As percentage of GDP for starters... JHan Nov 2016 #11
Thanks for the explanation. WhiteTara Nov 2016 #16
Our GDP is low, for some reasons I won't get into now, but we do produce ;) JHan Nov 2016 #17
So many jobs have been lost to automation that this is probably the only answer alarimer Nov 2016 #13
Germany is very different culturally.. JHan Nov 2016 #14
And one more point about outsourcing -- JHan Nov 2016 #15
Our new government will be "Three Branches Bush on Steroids" by Dec 2017. HughBeaumont Nov 2016 #18
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