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MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. Let's not be stupid about that bill. That bill was GENIUS.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 07:03 PM
Nov 2016

And let's not use "right wing framing" to try to make that bill more than what it was, or the OPPOSITE of what it was designed to do.


In 2005, the GOP wanted a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT that made flag burning a crime. They were ready to go to town on it.

That bill was like throwing a bone to a rabid dog so you could get the baby in the stroller safely into the house.

If you look at the bill, it's only applicable to FEDERAL PROPERTY, where setting fires is ILLEGAL anyway. This is why we don't see campfires at the Million Man March, for example.

It's basically a bill that says "You can't burn this particular item on federal land, never mind that you can't burn anything save a cigarette on federal land, anyway."

It gave the GOP mouth breathers something they could vote on.

It made absolutely NO DIFFERENCE in any actual practice. Further, it did not PASS, so no harm, no foul, but wingnuts could point to their "vote" like it mattered.

A bill that doesn't change anything (Look at the shiny object over HERE!!!) is infinitely preferable to a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, to my mind.

YMMV.

FWIW, the fact that the bill was introduced by, among others, Hillary Clinton, was purposeful. Some people don't like triangulation. If it's all that can be done to get a wingnut off your ass, I am all for it.

But I did see what you did there (or tried to do), and it didn't impress me one bit.

Do tell me I'm mistaken as to your motives.

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Yeah JHan Nov 2016 #1
Where are all these flag burners they want to protect us from? frazzled Nov 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author pangaia Nov 2016 #14
How about life in prison... Uben Nov 2016 #3
Let's not be stupid about that bill. That bill was GENIUS. MADem Nov 2016 #4
I might be misreading TubbersUK Nov 2016 #11
It was..MADem knows it....but it failed anyways. Nancyswidower Nov 2016 #18
Not really--see post 20. MADem Nov 2016 #21
You can't "incite or produce imminent violence or a breach of the peace" ANYWAY. MADem Nov 2016 #20
Yup. I could only manage a "yeah" for them.. JHan Nov 2016 #12
And....It was fully cosponsored by...wait for it... Nancyswidower Nov 2016 #5
Please see my discussion immediately upthread. This was a "Cut 'em off at the pass" bill. nt MADem Nov 2016 #6
I saw your post 3 minutes before mine.....irrelavant to the OP.... Nancyswidower Nov 2016 #13
It was a bill that didn't do anything in order to stave off a Constitutonal amendment. NYC Liberal Nov 2016 #7
I never made a cliam it was to stave off anything...I actually posted otherwise. Nancyswidower Nov 2016 #16
It WAS. Voted UP in the House in 2005, voted down in the Senate in 2006. MADem Nov 2016 #19
Totally different deal than what the OP linked to or that I replied to... Nancyswidower Nov 2016 #23
No--you're not paying attention. The OP / your link is to the BILL. MY LINK is to the proposed MADem Nov 2016 #24
Nice try.....but in post 4....your post, you mistate what was in the Bill... Nancyswidower Nov 2016 #27
Wah wah wah --the federal penalty for inciting a riot is five years, not one. MADem Nov 2016 #28
The bill and the amendment are two different things. MADem Nov 2016 #25
Send them an ashed up flag anonymously elehhhhna Nov 2016 #8
wait, is it the '90s again? what a bunch of grand-standing BS. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #9
But stealing victims' money with a fake Trump U gets you no time mainer Nov 2016 #10
So ... can we still burn Confederate flags? baldguy Nov 2016 #15
You can burn any flag.....this failed deal was from '05... Nancyswidower Nov 2016 #17
They should attach a rider... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #22
maybe we're making progress. it's no longer 1950; more like 1988...? unblock Nov 2016 #26
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