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Marr

(20,317 posts)
156. I realize you do media, but to most people...
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 07:07 PM
Nov 2016

...making these sorts of claims in the face of evidence to the contrary is called lying.

I have been wondering what they were going to do without her to focus hate on bravenak Nov 2016 #1
There are a lot of people across the political spectrum BainsBane Nov 2016 #2
They really did think they come with the I told you so shit and get applause bravenak Nov 2016 #4
Just understand that many of these people were desperate to lose. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #10
I know but they disgust me so much I want them to know how evil they are bravenak Nov 2016 #14
plus1 Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #18
They come to gloat but the thing is...I dislike them so much I don't care what they think or say. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #241
And it's so obvious who they are too. musicblind Nov 2016 #286
Indeed...why someone in bumscrew nowhere with a low population should have a great say Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #309
The fuhrer was unelectable too. nt Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #24
Take home whatever message gives you comfort. I stand totally behind every one of my comments. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #39
Clearly fuhrer was not unelectable and clearly, Bernie was. We had elections you know. Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #49
If you want to win the whole thing, you need more independents than dems. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #59
After what we've just been thru I am totally opposed to open primaries. Hekate Nov 2016 #98
Yes! radical noodle Nov 2016 #102
Damn right! n/t musicblind Nov 2016 #287
X 1,000.000 charlyvi Nov 2016 #103
I am for same day voting registration. Gore1FL Nov 2016 #110
Ok...still gotta court the independents. They are the swing voters that decide. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #141
x1000 Fresh_Start Nov 2016 #188
Sure, because we need fewer votes! EOM sfwriter Nov 2016 #198
Indy voters are that in name only- they typically stick with one party... bettyellen Nov 2016 #101
Yes, but they are blocked from a lot of primaries. Like me in NY. nt Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #125
Being asked to register does NOT equal being "blocked." BobbyDrake Nov 2016 #127
I want to be independent. Period. Always vote dem though. nt Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #137
I want to win the lottery and live forever. Doesn't mean it's going to happen. BobbyDrake Nov 2016 #160
X 1000 Friend. These are the same kind of people who can't be bothered to RSVP to a nice party Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #279
It's really good easy to register for a primary. No one stopped you from bettyellen Nov 2016 #138
I prefer to retain my independence. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #142
Well then, you've made the choice for yourself. Your primary vote is not important enough to bettyellen Nov 2016 #147
Then you are choosing to not vote in primaries mcar Nov 2016 #168
You have the independence to accept the hand-me-down candidate or not then. Your choice. fleabiscuit Nov 2016 #218
Then you're free to retain it rpannier Nov 2016 #223
No, absolutley not. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #242
Wtf are you talking about? I voted for Hillary. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #247
In your illusions bernie was electable Fresh_Start Nov 2016 #191
Who are you talking to? Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #203
Right he could not win a primary but he would take a general...let's see Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #243
He would have taken the independent vote. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #248
No he wouldn't. You are assuming the majority of independent voters lean left. Fla Dem Nov 2016 #251
We can only speculate of course. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #254
No he wouldn't ...given a choice between a populist (Trump) Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #271
Bernie wasn't elected BainsBane Nov 2016 #145
I had hoped they would all head over to JPR. Alas ... 11 Bravo Nov 2016 #124
I had hoped so too bravenak Nov 2016 #194
I hope Skinner calls an end to this fairly soon. There's a broad spectrum of DU Democrats who ... Hekate Nov 2016 #214
I agree that the grave dancers need to go sooner rather than later hueymahl Nov 2016 #275
My 82 year old father blue cat Nov 2016 #140
That's hilarious and somehow not surprising bravenak Nov 2016 #196
so close hfojvt Nov 2016 #229
Oh they will find someone...it is what they do and why we will continue to lose if we allow them Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #240
... NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #3
Well said Bains. sheshe2 Nov 2016 #5
k and r niyad Nov 2016 #6
K & R 1000 revmclaren Nov 2016 #7
Very well put. They're now wandering in the wilderness with no target to attack. Must be frustrating George II Nov 2016 #8
I've noticed some 'progressives' seem to do little but make broadbrush insults of the left, Marr Nov 2016 #9
Mission accomplished BainsBane Nov 2016 #16
What on earth are you talking about? Marr Nov 2016 #22
You responded to the OP as though it pertained to you BainsBane Nov 2016 #36
I suppose if you've heard nothing, then there's nothing to be heard... LanternWaste Nov 2016 #35
Then maybe the OP should point some of it out. Marr Nov 2016 #107
And now the repugs have access to every last one of the levers of power brush Nov 2016 #40
and Russian talking points BainsBane Nov 2016 #48
It's very depressing. Seems we can forget about undoing the gerrymandering in the 2020 census . . . brush Nov 2016 #63
I disagree about 2020 BainsBane Nov 2016 #65
That is about the only thing you have said in this thread that I agree with. mdbl Nov 2016 #116
I agree about not focusing only on the presidency . . . brush Nov 2016 #175
You're probably right BainsBane Nov 2016 #207
It may hinge on just how badly the republithugs fuck up everything. fleabiscuit Nov 2016 #219
Let's keep our fingers crossed. They've screwed up before many times. brush Nov 2016 #261
Don't forget, back in December Sanders operatives hacked the DNC computers, too, and admitted it! George II Nov 2016 #70
Then you aren't even reading the headlines on DU WhiteTara Nov 2016 #42
The looney white-privileged ASSHOLES that rooted/worked for Trump's victory are NOT the left. Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #112
This right here sums up how I feel perfectly. BobbyDrake Nov 2016 #135
YUP. When you support the handover of our society to Trump by word or deed - you are NOT the left. Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #146
Preach it Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2016 #221
I take it you're with Chuck, 'we'll get moderate Republicans instead of traditional Dems' Schumer? Marr Nov 2016 #157
HRC's voters are the Democratic base. Maybe you should google the definition. BobbyDrake Nov 2016 #163
Those would be liberals then. Marr Nov 2016 #189
The base varies from state to state. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #245
YES! betsuni Nov 2016 #150
WooHoo! Very well said. brush Nov 2016 #177
I especially like your last paragraph Hekate Nov 2016 #216
only the white privileged ones? hfojvt Nov 2016 #230
Wow. That was a seriously, embarrasingly, thin foil you drew there. Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #283
actually something like 8 million non-white people voted for Trump hfojvt Nov 2016 #302
Feh. I notice you failed utterly to address your comment about white Clinton voters. Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #306
No doubt about any of that! lonestarnot Nov 2016 #256
I could not have said it better. musicblind Nov 2016 #289
Helping give complete control of government to a party charlyvi Nov 2016 #114
Stop trying to blame the left for HRC's loss. Marr Nov 2016 #117
The assholes who sat on their ballots or supported Trump by voting for moonshots ARE NOT THE LEFT. Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #128
We will blame whomever we think it is right to blame. Stop trying to tell us what to do. stevenleser Nov 2016 #130
I realize you do media, but to most people... Marr Nov 2016 #156
Do you actually think that the vitriolic attacks on Hillary from some on the left during the . . . brush Nov 2016 #181
Are you saying presidents should be annointed by party leaders? Marr Nov 2016 #183
And you said all that while ignoring all the "corporate whore, corrupt, criminal" name calling . . . brush Nov 2016 #190
Let's not be children, ok? Marr Nov 2016 #195
I was on this site during the whole primary campaign and I beg to differ brush Nov 2016 #197
I doubt this site had any impact on the election. /nt Marr Nov 2016 #202
Ahhhh . . . why do you think they hacked it? brush Nov 2016 #211
If you considered Stein or a write in... you aren't the left. musicblind Nov 2016 #291
Stein got zero electoral votes, and 1% of the popular vote. Marr Nov 2016 #293
That's a goofy statement, bordering on asinine. Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #307
You're saying Jill Stein cost Hillary Clinton the election? Marr Dec 2016 #308
Interesting election takeaway. Am I to assume that we owe her an apology for letting her down? lumberjack_jeff Nov 2016 #11
Hell no. ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #15
Nobody owes anybody anything. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #17
You don't owe her anything BainsBane Nov 2016 #30
You got exactly what you wanted in the nomination of Clinton. The rest are consequences. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2016 #37
I exercised my vote BainsBane Nov 2016 #44
This!!! DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #57
Yup. I voted for her, too. Sadly, not enough people MineralMan Nov 2016 #66
Exactly ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #68
STANDS AND CHEERS! Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #132
1, and the polls showed clearly that she was the wrong choice. Marr Nov 2016 #111
As opposed to the candidate who couldn't even beat the wrong choice? No chance of you convincing us stevenleser Nov 2016 #133
I don't think any honest observer could say that the DNC Marr Nov 2016 #155
Your antecedent is wrong so your consequent is also wrong. stevenleser Nov 2016 #167
This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Nov 2016 #186
Get real. Bernie would have been villified even worst about his socialist past. brush Nov 2016 #182
Pure fantasy on your part. /nt Marr Nov 2016 #185
Pure fantasy on your's to think it wouldn't have happened. brush Nov 2016 #192
No, sorry. Marr Nov 2016 #193
Yeah, right. Socialism is very popular with those who voted for Trump brush Nov 2016 #277
Exactly, not only that, the very voters Sanders had some strength with would have been most impacted stevenleser Nov 2016 #266
They are two very different kinds of elections. whopis01 Nov 2016 #239
They are different, but with an outcome very different than the one you posit stevenleser Nov 2016 #255
I disagree whopis01 Nov 2016 #259
You have no basis for that disagreement. stevenleser Nov 2016 #263
I absolutely do have basis for it. whopis01 Nov 2016 #269
Ignoring the facts I mentioned means you have no basis for your disagreement stevenleser Nov 2016 #303
Clinton didn't have enough of their support to make any difference. whopis01 Nov 2016 #304
1 jack_krass Nov 2016 #235
Enjoy the consequences then...personally I voted for Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #244
My swing state went for Clinton. joshcryer Nov 2016 #280
This is part of a long term trend; poor people are increasingly rural people. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2016 #284
Poor *white* people YoungDemCA Nov 2016 #288
Oh, right. Nevermind then. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2016 #295
This is inevitable. joshcryer Nov 2016 #290
I'm intrigued when people say "women or whites" or "gays or whites" lumberjack_jeff Nov 2016 #298
Who's "we?" Did you, personally, "let her down?" MADem Nov 2016 #109
We owe ourselves an apology for letting ourselves down -- at least, pnwmom Nov 2016 #143
That is debatable INdemo Nov 2016 #222
Who do you think could have stopped him? The Libertarian? The Green Party? pnwmom Nov 2016 #232
Bernie Sanders INdemo Nov 2016 #258
No, writing him in in the General, as some people advocated, was a fool's errand pnwmom Nov 2016 #285
Have you ever given it any thought that Republicans have been organizing their game plan INdemo Nov 2016 #297
And they had a 2 foot thick folder of opposition research ready to go pnwmom Nov 2016 #299
last comment .... INdemo Nov 2016 #300
Yeah I noticed that too ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #12
I'm with you and the OP. BlueMTexpat Nov 2016 #74
Your use of the quotation marks in the OP was surgical. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #13
This is a meaningless diatribe jimlup Nov 2016 #19
Yep melman Nov 2016 #23
I also like to pretend everything I fail to hear of is "totally made-up nonsense" as well. LanternWaste Nov 2016 #38
Oh melman Nov 2016 #43
Right after "progressives" stop bashing every other Democrat first. BobbyDrake Nov 2016 #25
Hillary lost to someone who never should've had a chance. Marr Nov 2016 #161
Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #165
What is a 'Berniecrat', exactly? /nt Marr Nov 2016 #187
Thank you Jimlup! Nictuku Nov 2016 #31
Trump supporters are not progressives BainsBane Nov 2016 #32
99% of the people on this board voted for Hillary. progressoid Nov 2016 #80
Thread's not about progressives who voted for HRC. IE it isn't about YOU. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #89
If that's the case, this is an even more meaningless OP. progressoid Nov 2016 #96
10000 mdbl Nov 2016 #118
Depends on how you define "people on this board". If you include those who also have JPR accounts stevenleser Nov 2016 #136
I've never really been there. progressoid Nov 2016 #184
A creative bumper sticker that is for all intents and purposes, itself meaningless. LanternWaste Nov 2016 #41
And it belongs in the Postmortem forum. panader0 Nov 2016 #45
Yes DeeDeeNY Nov 2016 #84
Yup. n/t progressoid Nov 2016 #86
She owes us nothing that Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry and Gore don't also owe. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2016 #20
kerry remained senator, so he was still in public office. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #33
They want her removed from power BainsBane Nov 2016 #50
i have a lot of these stein voters on facebook and now that hillary is defeated La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #53
The toxic Left continues to fail to grasp that their addiction to attacking their own BobbyDrake Nov 2016 #21
Many are still doing it sad to say Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2016 #220
Whaaargarrrble nt retrowire Nov 2016 #26
Wonderful, bains, and thank you! UtahLib Nov 2016 #27
Hillary does not owe anyone anything Txbluedog Nov 2016 #28
Bravo! 86derps Nov 2016 #58
"If Hillary doesn't want to continue fighting for liberal ideals then that is fine." WTF is that?! Hekate Nov 2016 #224
This hueymahl Nov 2016 #91
Sorry, you don't get to define the discussion. The fact that we got more votes is an important stevenleser Nov 2016 #166
Good luck with your current leadership. I think they have already rolled over. leftofcool Nov 2016 #170
You are absolutely correct. She would have made an excellent President...nt asuhornets Nov 2016 #29
yep world wide wally Nov 2016 #81
Anyone who thinks a politician owes them something because they voted for them is mistaken as the cstanleytech Nov 2016 #34
Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #46
Tsk BainsBane Nov 2016 #47
So glad that you approve of T so much- what are you doing here then? Tumbulu Nov 2016 #55
Would you like the 300 dollar or the 500 dollar bottle of wine with your dinner? jalan48 Nov 2016 #64
you think that elected officials should be monks and nuns? Tumbulu Nov 2016 #71
No way. Monk's drink cheap wine. jalan48 Nov 2016 #75
No, I want the Lobster Sliders. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #82
I don't even know why you resent that. world wide wally Nov 2016 #85
It sounds like you would be more than willing. jalan48 Nov 2016 #92
Yeah sure. Are you offering? world wide wally Nov 2016 #100
I truly hope the leftynyc Nov 2016 #51
Dan Quayle ... LenaBaby61 Nov 2016 #54
Some of them are working hard to defend Trump BainsBane Nov 2016 #56
Worse than imbeciles leftynyc Nov 2016 #60
We've had a recent BainsBane Nov 2016 #69
Sadly they aren't Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2016 #225
I'm glad they're gone leftynyc Nov 2016 #236
K&R! DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #52
What are examples of lefties saying HRC owes them something now? aikoaiko Nov 2016 #61
Someone posted an OP BainsBane Nov 2016 #62
I tend to agree with your post overall, but on the other hand, I would like to see her speak out Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #67
That is what losing candidates do BainsBane Nov 2016 #104
I would ASSUME AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #78
I don't think Hillary is under any illusions that the recount Txbluedog Nov 2016 #88
So one poster said this and you went into a tirade LiberalLovinLug Nov 2016 #99
How am I kicking you around? BainsBane Nov 2016 #105
You aren't the only one who lost a once in a lifetime opportunity BainsBane Nov 2016 #113
But you are posting it in here! LiberalLovinLug Nov 2016 #121
I see. That helps me better understand your OP. aikoaiko Nov 2016 #173
That was really my point BainsBane Nov 2016 #176
Especially those that wrote in Sanders even after... Historic NY Nov 2016 #72
Another great post by Nance Gothmog Nov 2016 #73
Except I'm not Nance BainsBane Nov 2016 #77
Straw man here HassleCat Nov 2016 #76
Exactly. progressoid Nov 2016 #83
This hueymahl Nov 2016 #87
1000000! SammyWinstonJack Nov 2016 #246
k&r Starry Messenger Nov 2016 #79
I'm a progressive who worked to see her win. I just want her to win. I know she's best for ancianita Nov 2016 #90
Hillary supporters should admit the whole "She can't lose!" thing was wrong. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #93
We are apparently still in the "Anger" phase Gore1FL Nov 2016 #115
Actually, they're still in the "smugness" phase. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #120
I never said that BainsBane Nov 2016 #139
I heard it as the PRIME reason to select her at my caucus.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #154
I also heard that we should support Bernie because he polled better BainsBane Nov 2016 #158
He polled better among independents which weren't allowed to vote in many primaries.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #164
Well said, and thank you emulatorloo Nov 2016 #94
Plus a million or so. At least she and Bill and Chelsea can keep the Foundaion going.... Hekate Nov 2016 #95
I hope she spends a month on some lovely island mcar Nov 2016 #97
I understand the anger of the OP and many that replied, but Red Oak Nov 2016 #106
The attacks against her cut deep... JHan Nov 2016 #108
What an incredibly distorted, twisted, and polarizing assessment of reality. wundermaus Nov 2016 #119
If you don't vote Democrat, you aren't the base BainsBane Nov 2016 #122
If the Democratic base is only "people of color and single women".. Red Oak Nov 2016 #149
You wanted Trump and you got him. Now deal with it. leftofcool Nov 2016 #171
Who wants her to speak out? David__77 Nov 2016 #123
Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #126
Well, thank goodness you got what you wanted BainsBane Nov 2016 #131
Being unable to read minds... you'll have to show me why that's so. FBaggins Nov 2016 #129
Pray tell, what does the party owe you? BainsBane Nov 2016 #134
Feel free to dodge the question in my post FBaggins Nov 2016 #144
I responded to that in another post in this thread BainsBane Nov 2016 #151
Well said JHan Nov 2016 #179
So what you're saying is... FBaggins Nov 2016 #212
K and r. nt cwydro Nov 2016 #148
Oooooh. So much greatness in this! Squinch Nov 2016 #152
Why bash progressives Warpy Nov 2016 #153
It's astounding the attachment to that word BainsBane Nov 2016 #174
You're the one who brought it up Warpy Nov 2016 #199
Two quibbles: Nevernose Nov 2016 #210
I may have missed the Sec./Sen. Clinton posts suggesting that she owes us anything. Nancyswidower Nov 2016 #159
Well actually not her, but i will wait a couple more years to see if it happens nolabels Nov 2016 #162
A fucking men! leftofcool Nov 2016 #169
I'm playing JPR bingo in this thread and I just need "neoliberal" to get bingo. betsuni Nov 2016 #172
Damn, no neoliberal? BainsBane Nov 2016 #180
LOL, also: coronation R B Garr Nov 2016 #249
Also too annointed and crowned. betsuni Nov 2016 #252
And billionaires! Something something billionaires something something R B Garr Nov 2016 #276
Don't forget DYNASTY! lol musicblind Nov 2016 #296
Convenient Recognizing Baine! ProfessorGAC Nov 2016 #178
I find it fascinating when some assume BainsBane Nov 2016 #200
I Find It Fascinating... ProfessorGAC Nov 2016 #237
I have been following JPR for a few months. I am now posting there under my DU name. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #201
Some voted for Trump directly BainsBane Nov 2016 #204
Agreed. Some respondents admitted that they voted for Trump, or Stein. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #205
Good for you BainsBane Nov 2016 #206
But if we do not talk among ourselves, what will happen? guillaumeb Nov 2016 #208
You're right, of course BainsBane Nov 2016 #209
Well said!!!! AgadorSparticus Nov 2016 #213
No outlet for their rage wildeyed Nov 2016 #215
K & R SunSeeker Nov 2016 #217
Any progressive still more focused on Clinton than the Racist-in-Chief is not actually a progressive LonePirate Nov 2016 #226
Clinton supporters included. Iggo Nov 2016 #265
K&R!!! lunamagica Nov 2016 #227
Thanks Bain, Hillary has spend a lot of time trying to help those who are not as fortunate as others Thinkingabout Nov 2016 #228
If you make progressives not welcome, they'll go find a party that doesn't rig things against them jfern Nov 2016 #231
She for damn sure owes them nothing but here's the thing with Hillary.. Cha Nov 2016 #233
Don't you want Progressives votes? ihaveaquestion Nov 2016 #234
I was/am a Bernie support/ progressive bec Nov 2016 #238
Hope you and all those Progressives have a nice life under Trump leftofcool Nov 2016 #253
edited. R B Garr Nov 2016 #250
It's heartbreaking for me to say this Politicub Nov 2016 #257
Yeah, me too. Ligyron Nov 2016 #272
Without a progressive wing, the Dem party is . . FairWinds Nov 2016 #260
I've seen the same thing - especially from the strong Clinton supporters whopis01 Nov 2016 #262
Clinton gave me the best she had and came up short. She doesn't owe me anything. (n/t) Iggo Nov 2016 #264
She tried really hard but lost. Owes? Jersey Devil Nov 2016 #267
As a strong supporter of Bernie tiredtoo Nov 2016 #268
I think she's doing a great job post election. hollowdweller Nov 2016 #270
Hillary Clinton owes me nothing. Fla Dem Nov 2016 #273
Ms. Clinton owes it to us to dismantle the DLC . . FairWinds Nov 2016 #274
Stronger Together senaca Nov 2016 #278
I actually hope she runs in 2020. joshcryer Nov 2016 #281
She won't. BainsBane Nov 2016 #292
I know. joshcryer Nov 2016 #294
I'm starting to think this site is the "bubble" that lost us the election. n/t sylvanus Nov 2016 #282
They can blame Obama for 2 more months WMDemocract Nov 2016 #301
Agreed kebob Nov 2016 #305
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