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In reply to the discussion: In Private Fundraiser, Keith Ellison Said Israel Controls US Policy [View all]Ilsa
(61,697 posts)59. In its earlier form, it was taking out the centrifuges, gradually,
and Iran was blaming its scientists. They were oblivious to the virus and hacking.
Once they found out, Iran issued a cyber-call-to-arms. They are spending buttloads on hackers and cyberattacks now. Then they proceded to fire two warning shots. First, they shut down 30,000 laptops for a major saudi oil driller. Then they hacked 2 or 3 US online banking systems. We all ended up at the negotiating table after discovering what Iran was suddenly cspable of doing.
Israel should have informed their partners that they were going to ramp it up and release it. What they did was in bad faith, IMO, for an ally.
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In Private Fundraiser, Keith Ellison Said Israel Controls US Policy [View all]
ericson00
Nov 2016
OP
It's not antisemitism to recognize that Israel has a major influence on our foreign policy. nt
killbotfactory
Dec 2016
#144
Depending on context it might be. And there is a lot of other context in that post. nt
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#146
So the masters of identity politics decided that hating Palestinians is the right thing to do
jfern
Nov 2016
#6
The "strong majority" of Americans don't think much about Israel one way or anther..
whathehell
Nov 2016
#78
"If you want to ignore a poll that gives 'preety much' gives the same result every year...
whathehell
Nov 2016
#118
the reason I won't report your post is so that the left-wing anti-Semitism can be exposed
ericson00
Dec 2016
#126
Yep, I've never seen a USS Liberty reference that wasn't a smokescreen for antisemitism. nt
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#143
In 2016, Donald Trump was the master of 'Identity Politics'. He ran on hating minorities.
emulatorloo
Nov 2016
#43
What does it matter Trumpy is going to end it anyway...so how a DNC chairman feels
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#80
I know exactly why Trump won...and the fight needed to happen before he won.
Demsrule86
Dec 2016
#133
MEK was delisted by the US and everyone else because they found out the info implicating them
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#123
Odd you see merely two possibilities. Simplistic thinking is rather convenient to one's bias, yes?
LanternWaste
Nov 2016
#87
Let's get Dean to lobby for the Democrats as DNC chair, as he's damn good at that
emulatorloo
Nov 2016
#49
I have nothing against Ellison, I admire him greatly, but Howard Dean is what we need right now.
phleshdef
Nov 2016
#11
And pointing out that the messenger is an anti-Muslim bigot is a statement of fact.
baldguy
Nov 2016
#28
So, progressive Dems who find Israels undue influence problematic are "anti Israel" now?
baldguy
Dec 2016
#130
The US is trying to develop relationships with moderate Iran? You think Iran is moderate? n/t
shira
Dec 2016
#160
Obviously Israel doesn't have great influence as Israel lost the battle on the Iran deal. n/t
shira
Nov 2016
#113
Those quotes are not from Ellison. Random quotes from other people are not at issue. nt
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#145
Doesn't matter. The question is whether Ellison is suitable based on his statements.
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#149
given Jewish voters' generosity to the Democratic Party, in votes, activism, and yes, contributions,
ericson00
Nov 2016
#40
Ellison is 100 percent correct. However it's not something you say out loud.
hollowdweller
Nov 2016
#75
Should Ellison be required to register his status as Muslim? Seeing that he's untrustworthy
tenderfoot
Nov 2016
#84
LoL. It wasn't a direct quote, but Ellison was clearly talking about Israel. n/t
shira
Nov 2016
#107
My former Congressman said the same. He said that AIPAC wields a lot of influence
mahina
Dec 2016
#127
"When the Americans who trace their roots back to those 350 million get involved everything changes"
Fast Walker 52
Dec 2016
#156