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In reply to the discussion: I've noticed some "progressives" seem to think Hillary owes them something [View all]stevenleser
(32,886 posts)263. You have no basis for that disagreement.
Clinton crushed Sanders in all the states I mentioned. Crushed. Wasn't close.
And she crushed Sanders for exactly the reason I mentioned.
Yes, African American and Latino enthusiasm had a great impact. She was in the running for those states. Trump had to go there, his surrogates had to go there, he had to spend a lot of money there.
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I've noticed some "progressives" seem to think Hillary owes them something [View all]
BainsBane
Nov 2016
OP
They come to gloat but the thing is...I dislike them so much I don't care what they think or say.
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#241
Indeed...why someone in bumscrew nowhere with a low population should have a great say
Demsrule86
Dec 2016
#309
Take home whatever message gives you comfort. I stand totally behind every one of my comments.
Buzz Clik
Nov 2016
#39
Clearly fuhrer was not unelectable and clearly, Bernie was. We had elections you know.
Maru Kitteh
Nov 2016
#49
If you want to win the whole thing, you need more independents than dems.
Lucky Luciano
Nov 2016
#59
Ok...still gotta court the independents. They are the swing voters that decide.
Lucky Luciano
Nov 2016
#141
I want to win the lottery and live forever. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.
BobbyDrake
Nov 2016
#160
X 1000 Friend. These are the same kind of people who can't be bothered to RSVP to a nice party
Maru Kitteh
Nov 2016
#279
Well then, you've made the choice for yourself. Your primary vote is not important enough to
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#147
You have the independence to accept the hand-me-down candidate or not then. Your choice.
fleabiscuit
Nov 2016
#218
No he wouldn't. You are assuming the majority of independent voters lean left.
Fla Dem
Nov 2016
#251
I hope Skinner calls an end to this fairly soon. There's a broad spectrum of DU Democrats who ...
Hekate
Nov 2016
#214
Oh they will find someone...it is what they do and why we will continue to lose if we allow them
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#240
Very well put. They're now wandering in the wilderness with no target to attack. Must be frustrating
George II
Nov 2016
#8
I've noticed some 'progressives' seem to do little but make broadbrush insults of the left,
Marr
Nov 2016
#9
It's very depressing. Seems we can forget about undoing the gerrymandering in the 2020 census . . .
brush
Nov 2016
#63
Don't forget, back in December Sanders operatives hacked the DNC computers, too, and admitted it!
George II
Nov 2016
#70
The looney white-privileged ASSHOLES that rooted/worked for Trump's victory are NOT the left.
Maru Kitteh
Nov 2016
#112
YUP. When you support the handover of our society to Trump by word or deed - you are NOT the left.
Maru Kitteh
Nov 2016
#146
I take it you're with Chuck, 'we'll get moderate Republicans instead of traditional Dems' Schumer?
Marr
Nov 2016
#157
HRC's voters are the Democratic base. Maybe you should google the definition.
BobbyDrake
Nov 2016
#163
Feh. I notice you failed utterly to address your comment about white Clinton voters.
Maru Kitteh
Nov 2016
#306
The assholes who sat on their ballots or supported Trump by voting for moonshots ARE NOT THE LEFT.
Maru Kitteh
Nov 2016
#128
We will blame whomever we think it is right to blame. Stop trying to tell us what to do.
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#130
Do you actually think that the vitriolic attacks on Hillary from some on the left during the . . .
brush
Nov 2016
#181
And you said all that while ignoring all the "corporate whore, corrupt, criminal" name calling . . .
brush
Nov 2016
#190
Interesting election takeaway. Am I to assume that we owe her an apology for letting her down?
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2016
#11
You got exactly what you wanted in the nomination of Clinton. The rest are consequences. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2016
#37
As opposed to the candidate who couldn't even beat the wrong choice? No chance of you convincing us
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#133
Exactly, not only that, the very voters Sanders had some strength with would have been most impacted
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#266
They are different, but with an outcome very different than the one you posit
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#255
Ignoring the facts I mentioned means you have no basis for your disagreement
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#303
This is part of a long term trend; poor people are increasingly rural people.
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2016
#284
No, writing him in in the General, as some people advocated, was a fool's errand
pnwmom
Nov 2016
#285
Have you ever given it any thought that Republicans have been organizing their game plan
INdemo
Nov 2016
#297
I also like to pretend everything I fail to hear of is "totally made-up nonsense" as well.
LanternWaste
Nov 2016
#38
Depends on how you define "people on this board". If you include those who also have JPR accounts
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#136
A creative bumper sticker that is for all intents and purposes, itself meaningless.
LanternWaste
Nov 2016
#41
She owes us nothing that Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry and Gore don't also owe. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2016
#20
i have a lot of these stein voters on facebook and now that hillary is defeated
La Lioness Priyanka
Nov 2016
#53
The toxic Left continues to fail to grasp that their addiction to attacking their own
BobbyDrake
Nov 2016
#21
"If Hillary doesn't want to continue fighting for liberal ideals then that is fine." WTF is that?!
Hekate
Nov 2016
#224
Sorry, you don't get to define the discussion. The fact that we got more votes is an important
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#166
Good luck with your current leadership. I think they have already rolled over.
leftofcool
Nov 2016
#170
Anyone who thinks a politician owes them something because they voted for them is mistaken as the
cstanleytech
Nov 2016
#34
Would you like the 300 dollar or the 500 dollar bottle of wine with your dinner?
jalan48
Nov 2016
#64
I tend to agree with your post overall, but on the other hand, I would like to see her speak out
Fast Walker 52
Nov 2016
#67
I'm a progressive who worked to see her win. I just want her to win. I know she's best for
ancianita
Nov 2016
#90
Hillary supporters should admit the whole "She can't lose!" thing was wrong.
Spitfire of ATJ
Nov 2016
#93
He polled better among independents which weren't allowed to vote in many primaries....
Spitfire of ATJ
Nov 2016
#164
Plus a million or so. At least she and Bill and Chelsea can keep the Foundaion going....
Hekate
Nov 2016
#95
What an incredibly distorted, twisted, and polarizing assessment of reality.
wundermaus
Nov 2016
#119
I may have missed the Sec./Sen. Clinton posts suggesting that she owes us anything.
Nancyswidower
Nov 2016
#159
Well actually not her, but i will wait a couple more years to see if it happens
nolabels
Nov 2016
#162
I'm playing JPR bingo in this thread and I just need "neoliberal" to get bingo.
betsuni
Nov 2016
#172
I have been following JPR for a few months. I am now posting there under my DU name.
guillaumeb
Nov 2016
#201
Any progressive still more focused on Clinton than the Racist-in-Chief is not actually a progressive
LonePirate
Nov 2016
#226
Thanks Bain, Hillary has spend a lot of time trying to help those who are not as fortunate as others
Thinkingabout
Nov 2016
#228
If you make progressives not welcome, they'll go find a party that doesn't rig things against them
jfern
Nov 2016
#231
Clinton gave me the best she had and came up short. She doesn't owe me anything. (n/t)
Iggo
Nov 2016
#264
I'm starting to think this site is the "bubble" that lost us the election. n/t
sylvanus
Nov 2016
#282