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angrychair

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61. I have no ageist or sexist issue

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 03:09 PM

Nov 2016

I do take issue that we have elected the same leadership, man or women, young or old, that has been in command while we lost the House and Senate, repeatedly, for several election cycles, MORE IMPORTANTLY: as well as giving republicans control of majority of governorships and state legislatures.

I am more than willing to give them a chance but I think it is completely fair to expect some results as well. A clear plan forward that produces real gains and creates better relationships at the state level that produces gains their as well.
That has to matter and I think it is a completely fair expectation.

To be clear I have been a Democrat all my life and I've been on this board since 2006. This is not about Sanders. We've been getting our ass handed to us and I think it is completely fair to hold our Party leadership to specific expectations and to replace them if they cannot produce. That is how the real world and a real job works, why should it be any different for them?

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Pelosi wins 134-63! [View all] hrmjustin Nov 2016 OP

E Ha! Thank you for the great news, Justin! Cha Nov 2016 #1

Hey Cha! hrmjustin Nov 2016 #2

Hey you! Cha Nov 2016 #4

Yep! Time to be a thorn in Trump's side now! hrmjustin Nov 2016 #9

I'll toast to that.. Cha Nov 2016 #10

Hi Cha! Been looking for you on DU! skylucy Nov 2016 #13

I was MIA! You wouldn't Cha Nov 2016 #18

Good! Now let's move on and obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. Fla Dem Nov 2016 #3

Wait for the "obstruction is off the table" comment in 3...2... NightWatcher Nov 2016 #8

That's my fear Bettie Nov 2016 #11

I certainly hope she goes for the jugular. I'm sick of the damn high road. nt MaeScott Nov 2016 #45

Me too Bettie Nov 2016 #47

I am moving in this direction too.... AgadorSparticus Nov 2016 #109

She won't. nt awoke_in_2003 Nov 2016 #110

Democrats need to start fighting Republicans the way Republicans fight Democrats. TeamPooka Nov 2016 #67

I hope those 63 don't become a thorn to deal with. yeoman6987 Nov 2016 #91

Glad that Nancy Pelosi won her leadership position and was not offered as sacrificial lamb La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #5

Really! Dems weren't buying it in the House. Cha Nov 2016 #12

i am fine with Tim Ryan as a regular house member from Ohio La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #14

Thank you for pointing that out. GoCubsGo Nov 2016 #31

just like the progressives supported Tulsi Gabbard, who is a conservative democrat La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #33

But, she's young and fresh! GoCubsGo Nov 2016 #36

indeed La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #37

100 (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #39

From the first time I saw him on television, PatSeg Nov 2016 #49

Thanks! MoonRiver Nov 2016 #6

Alrighty, Ms. Nancy, you best be fightin every step of the way. deminks Nov 2016 #7

Well you just call up that super-experienced politician and talk to her every day Hekate Nov 2016 #16

Good Hekate Nov 2016 #15

So our top 3 House leaders are all in their 70s Jersey Devil Nov 2016 #17

What is the maximum age limit you would then propose for leadership positions? LanternWaste Nov 2016 #19

also isnt bernie their fav politician? and isn't he 75? La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #23

Now you know, that doesn't count! WhiteTara Nov 2016 #35

Especially those without any dangly bits between their legs. Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #70

Pelosi, Hoyer and Clyburn are ALL in their 70s Jersey Devil Nov 2016 #25

That's a clever trick. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2016 #43

40. Never trust anyone over 40. MineralMan Nov 2016 #76

Why don't they care about developing the next generation?? lostnfound Nov 2016 #101

they got excited over Bernie. can they only be excited by old white men? La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #22

The entire Dem House leadership should be over 70? Jersey Devil Nov 2016 #28

it's smart to have capable people holding roles in dangerous times. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #29

Agree. We're up against the wall, saltpoint Nov 2016 #34

We should not underestimate the power of experience. And don't underestimate those 'kids' ehrnst Nov 2016 #41

Exactly, Bernie is old! treestar Nov 2016 #95

Agreed... disillusioned73 Nov 2016 #26

Because Sanders was so young? Why does this age CONCERN apply only to women? Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #40

THANK YOU!!! (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #42

Ahhhh.. disillusioned73 Nov 2016 #44

I thought they added the two men in the op as well yeoman6987 Nov 2016 #92

the age rtracey Nov 2016 #63

When Did It All Become Me. Nov 2016 #48

That kind of change for change sake treestar Nov 2016 #94

Great! mcar Nov 2016 #20

.. Cha Nov 2016 #21

Welcome back, Cha! mcar Nov 2016 #24

Mahalo, mcar Cha Nov 2016 #27

Democrats learned nothing from this election davidn3600 Nov 2016 #30

Identity politics just means civil rights for everyone. Demit Nov 2016 #46

But it isn't giving us the victories we need, is it? randome Nov 2016 #55

Yes, let's join the Republicans in being ugly to everyone. Demit Nov 2016 #87

I'm not at all saying to abandon civil rights. randome Nov 2016 #88

Yeah, us minorities & women keep ruining some folks plan for a white populist party Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #50

Noted: you don't say "we Democrats" frazzled Nov 2016 #83

Yes, I speak of the DNC in the 3rd person davidn3600 Nov 2016 #93

Spot on - She's like a caricature of everying wrong with the Dems rumdude Nov 2016 #98

Completely agree. You know what's sick? I'm actually nostalgic for the 1990s Democratic Party - Midwestern Democrat Dec 2016 #115

K&R! stonecutter357 Nov 2016 #32

Good. KR! SaschaHM Nov 2016 #38

So impeachment of Trump is off the table then? n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2016 #51

the Who is proven wrong again hfojvt Nov 2016 #52

more of the same Skittles Nov 2016 #53

I like Pelosi blueotter Nov 2016 #54

Hooray! We'll just keep running from the left, right off the damn cliff. (Now lets raise some money) sylvanus Nov 2016 #56

My concern isn't "left" vs. "center" politics... brooklynite Nov 2016 #59

The ins and outs of House Rules are irrelevant when we're the minority and they're geek tragedy Nov 2016 #66

Remember this year's sit-in on gun control? brooklynite Nov 2016 #75

which was technically a violation of House Rules (I guess) but geek tragedy Nov 2016 #84

Ugh LittleGirl Nov 2016 #57

it's the very definition of insanity Skittles Nov 2016 #72

that's exactly how I think right now. eom LittleGirl Nov 2016 #81

Double UGH, this is a big mistake IMO Raine Nov 2016 #102

Not good for those who want change. Cobalt Violet Nov 2016 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author jalan48 Nov 2016 #60

I have no ageist or sexist issue angrychair Nov 2016 #61

The fact that Republicans hate her is good enough for me world wide wally Nov 2016 #62

Hell Yeh, Worked for Clinton and Obama! Winning! sylvanus Nov 2016 #71

Maybe we can act more Republican to please them world wide wally Nov 2016 #78

So ... relayerbob Nov 2016 #64

2 more years of the same stale leadership that hasn't done anything geek tragedy Nov 2016 #65

The more things change the more they stay the same. Red Oak Nov 2016 #68

Obamacare was a huge win that she acccomplished without a single pnwmom Nov 2016 #73

I'm sure that if I don't like the current leadership I'm an "ist" of some sort. Red Oak Nov 2016 #96

How was she demonstrably bad at her elections? She won every won. n/t pnwmom Nov 2016 #97

I was wrong. The Democratic party is kicking ass over the past eight years. Red Oak Nov 2016 #103

There are 31 GOP governors and only 18 Dems, and the GOP governors pnwmom Nov 2016 #107

Yes, I am totally wrong. Pelosi is awesome! Red Oak Nov 2016 #108

What was the vote breakdown? TSIAS Nov 2016 #69

He got 63 votes. I think your assumptions are correct. hrmjustin Nov 2016 #74

How will this translate to the needed changes to the Party? eom guillaumeb Nov 2016 #77

Has the DNC named a new leader? JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2016 #79

In February. hrmjustin Nov 2016 #80

Very happy she will be a great leader again. rwheeler31 Nov 2016 #82

She get one more term. kentuck Nov 2016 #85

Good news! gademocrat7 Nov 2016 #86

Glad she won it with competition instead of old guards aikoaiko Nov 2016 #89

Ms. Pelosi will do a good job. nt ladjf Nov 2016 #90

Yeah, she's done such a great job up to this point rumdude Nov 2016 #99

She has. I think you don't actually know what her job entails La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #116

Tim Ryan was not the person to lead the Democrats, but neither is Pelosi. Tatiana Nov 2016 #100

I see the Democrats voted to go down with the ship Backwoodsrider Nov 2016 #104

Same old, same old Raine Nov 2016 #105

it sucks so bad, the Greedy Old Pig party is CELEBRATING Skittles Nov 2016 #113

Democrats need to get some new faces out there, and not just from coastal cities Auggie Nov 2016 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author pressbox69 Nov 2016 #111

Obviously pressbox69 Nov 2016 #112

Well awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #114