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dhol82

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44. You know - it's their choice

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 08:03 PM

Nov 2016

I can't get crazy about accommodating every twist and turn of religious doctrine.
If this is a religious school, then great. If it is a public school, then a secular exemplar of a common holiday is not offensive.

You seem to have the problem. Care to share what it is?

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Santa Claus Banned from Oregon Classrooms [View all] philosslayer Nov 2016 OP

Isn't that special Lotusflower70 Nov 2016 #1

I feel so sorry for kids today yeoman6987 Nov 2016 #17

It is much better now. More diverse. Table Nov 2016 #39

There's nothing wrong with a little childhood fun and fantasy. As for diverse, Santa lunamagica Nov 2016 #54

Not if he doesn't come to your house: In that case, it's not OK for a child at school. lindysalsagal Nov 2016 #60

This is fake news. Right wing "War on Christmas" BS. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #108

No. My school just eliminated Santa from an event. lindysalsagal Dec 2016 #115

what school do you go to? snooper2 Dec 2016 #119

! bravenak Dec 2016 #126

Ok 2 things GummyBearz Dec 2016 #128

Unless you go to Hillsboro, Oregon School District School, Thor_MN Dec 2016 #127

Not talking privilege Lotusflower70 Nov 2016 #71

Sorry but Santa should be allowed. yeoman6987 Nov 2016 #75

Story is not true. Please see my other replies on this thread. skylucy Nov 2016 #84

Sounds ok to me.... apcalc Nov 2016 #2

Oh, people should get a grip dhol82 Nov 2016 #3

I agree with you. LisaM Nov 2016 #5

Yes. Thanks. elleng Nov 2016 #6

Based on a saint, visits on a Christian holiday? Yep, totally secular. LeftyMom Nov 2016 #16

That might have been the historical genesis of this particular exemplar of the holiday dhol82 Nov 2016 #20

Symbol of which holiday's joy? LeftyMom Nov 2016 #24

All holidays that are celebrated in December dhol82 Nov 2016 #26

That's horseshit and you know it's horseshit. LeftyMom Nov 2016 #30

Saturnalia is also an interesting choice dhol82 Nov 2016 #28

From the North Pole, using flying reindeer jberryhill Nov 2016 #23

Do all religions have a "festive" holiday at the right marybourg Nov 2016 #29

All religions have 'festive' holidays. dhol82 Nov 2016 #40

I don't object to any. I was just marybourg Nov 2016 #48

There are celebrations that are enjoyed throughout December. dhol82 Nov 2016 #55

Okey dokey. nt. marybourg Nov 2016 #69

Human civilizations of all kinds have marked the solstices and equinoxes jberryhill Dec 2016 #113

'want to make sure all cultures and backgrounds are comfortable' elleng Nov 2016 #4

I was just at Bed, Bath and whatever. They have a Chanukah section and dhol82 Nov 2016 #9

Perfect! Wish my family were still together and had a Chanukah Bush! elleng Nov 2016 #11

Awwww! Sounds wonderful! :) dhol82 Nov 2016 #12

Fight the battles that are worth fighting. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2016 #7

Word. Nt Quayblue Nov 2016 #94

Well said Jeezzzzzz Old Vet Nov 2016 #99

The last paragraph is sarcasm. Kingofalldems Nov 2016 #8

I did say what i mean philosslayer Nov 2016 #56

How dumb Travis_0004 Nov 2016 #10

Why are you blaming Muslims? It's usually JWs who want holidays out of the classroom. LeftyMom Nov 2016 #18

How will they be excluded! dhol82 Nov 2016 #25

JW etc kids are kept home or sent to another classroom during holiday stuff. LeftyMom Nov 2016 #27

How sad for them. dhol82 Nov 2016 #32

Birthdays too, apparently. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #36

I would hate her too. Ron Obvious Nov 2016 #80

Lol. That's how many of them reacted too. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #81

No. LeftyMom Nov 2016 #37

You know - it's their choice dhol82 Nov 2016 #44

It's not the child's choice. They're legally entitled to a public education LeftyMom Nov 2016 #47

Sorry to be coming back to this dhol82 Nov 2016 #72

I think you are deliberately fomenting anger here dhol82 Nov 2016 #34

No. Actually a surprising number of court cases keeping schools secular and non-sectarian come from LeftyMom Nov 2016 #42

Gosh - are you JW? dhol82 Nov 2016 #45

No, I'm just aware of court cases on secular public ed and their history. LeftyMom Nov 2016 #50

Interesting dhol82 Nov 2016 #57

When I was in public grade school, we started the morning with a prayer. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #102

What do you think of this case? rug Nov 2016 #62

I have no problem with smudging dhol82 Nov 2016 #76

Me either. rug Nov 2016 #85

based on my experience it has always been the JW kids who did not take part JI7 Dec 2016 #112

Actually my friend lives in a Jewish area and they have this request in her public school district lunasun Nov 2016 #64

so wrong in so many ways... handmade34 Nov 2016 #13

Totally agree. dhol82 Nov 2016 #51

THIS STORY IS NOT TRUE! If you log onto the Hillsboro School District (Oregon) website, skylucy Nov 2016 #83

From the Hillsboro School District site, this story headline is NOT TRUE. DawgHouse Dec 2016 #106

Dollars to doughnuts, the OP will not acknowledge he posted a fake story. cwydro Dec 2016 #116

Yes, it's easy to look up the truth. Media is running with a click bait headline. DawgHouse Dec 2016 #107

With over 4,700 holidays to celebrate, when would math class take place? LanternWaste Dec 2016 #123

This is the kind of shit that gets people to vote for Leontius Nov 2016 #14

Oh yeah, Republicans clean up in Portland. LeftyMom Nov 2016 #21

Seriously Calculating Nov 2016 #46

I just posted something in General Discussion to let DUers know that this story is not true. skylucy Nov 2016 #92

Thanks for the info. Leontius Nov 2016 #101

So close to posting the "Ho! Ho! Ho! Sit on my lap Johnny. . ." joke. TheBlackAdder Nov 2016 #15

Santa Claus, however, is a symbol of a secular tradition which is not a religious one jberryhill Nov 2016 #19

Time for FOX News to stir up their religious kooks with this story. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #22

Yup. This is the kind of silly shit that made Bill O'Reilly rich. 11 Bravo Nov 2016 #33

Yeah, like the "war on Christmas" nonsense. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #43

exactly. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #65

Yeah. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #66

Hell, it's not even so much 'trying to be secular', it's just a standard reminder to be inclusive. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #95

I agree. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #97

Yeah, aint that a kick in the pants? Church lawns aplenty and the only place suitable for a manger Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #98

Thank God the kids will be protected from Santa! hrmjustin Nov 2016 #31

I went to school in NYC in the 40's and 50's. marybourg Nov 2016 #35

This reminds me of South Park's Non-Offensive Christmas Episode. I think we just smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #38

Perfect! dhol82 Nov 2016 #77

so what about All Hallows' Eve? KewlKat Nov 2016 #41

Truly there is nothing more sacrosanct than Santacon. nt geek tragedy Nov 2016 #49

Thank you for reminding me! dhol82 Nov 2016 #78

Just avoid LES, EVil, and Billyburg nt geek tragedy Nov 2016 #89

They are generally all over the West Village also. dhol82 Dec 2016 #117

Sheesh what horseshit. Santa is such a fucking threat to safe spaces..that whole thing about jmg257 Nov 2016 #52

horseshit is right. Namely, this "libruls ban santa" horseshit being pushed in this story. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #59

Story is not true. (I just posted in General Discussion to let people know.) skylucy Nov 2016 #93

OH NO Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #53

"It really went out as a notification to staff, not even parents" Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #58

Santa Claus is a creation of Coca-Cola. Less soft drinks the better. tenderfoot Nov 2016 #61

What flame baiting bullshit tenderfoot Nov 2016 #63

Pretty ironic, from my standpoint. Paladin Nov 2016 #67

Santa Claus is a great tool for teaching kids not to believe all the BS that adults are pushing FarCenter Nov 2016 #68

My family members who were most susceptible to believing in Santa Claus became... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #79

Not surprised dhol82 Nov 2016 #87

Exactly. Kids should be skeptical of tales of invisible or unseen beings with magic powers Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #96

That's too bad... Mike Nelson Nov 2016 #70

Eh. I grew up on Long Island in the 60s and 70s. We sang lots of songs, including phylny Nov 2016 #73

My school did that when I was in 2nd grade - in 1973 cyberswede Nov 2016 #74

THIS STORY IS NOT TRUE! If you log onto the Hillsboro School District (Oregon) website, skylucy Nov 2016 #82

Lol, that figures! Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #86

Huh, that's so weird... Dr. Strange Dec 2016 #118

This has been debunked. It is not true. And now you know it, and should take this down. Squinch Nov 2016 #88

What, and deviate from his loop? Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #100

This. cwydro Dec 2016 #120

At least he's taken a break from telling us that all women should be wearing hijabs or burkas. Squinch Dec 2016 #124

Lol! cwydro Dec 2016 #125

This also, is not complicated. DesmondFoster Nov 2016 #90

Guess I'm not a progressive then. Thanks for letting me know. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #103

You're welcome? DesmondFoster Dec 2016 #109

Sorry, but I just don't give a flying fuck what strangers on the internet think about me anymore. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #111

Santa is a Coca-Cola advertising vehicle, and does not represent "a Christian holiday" jberryhill Dec 2016 #114

Turns out this story is more fake news CanonRay Nov 2016 #91

we should have 'Draconian Claus' instead NRQ891 Dec 2016 #104

Don't kill a tree for Jesus. Coyotl Dec 2016 #105

Didn't we see this in a South Park episode? jmowreader Dec 2016 #110

Story is not true. Santa wasn't banned at all. MineralMan Dec 2016 #121

What's important to the focus on is of course, what any school district is or is not celebrating LanternWaste Dec 2016 #122

in principle, you're right. Thing tho is that Christianity is kind of the majority culture TuslaUltra Dec 2016 #129