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Tikki

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18. People have been drinking alcohol forever...and people are injured, and killed in accidents...

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 06:18 PM

Dec 2016

where a driver is under the influence of alcohol.

There is no lobby to protect those on the road from being involved in accidents that involve driving under marijuana's influence...
except for the laws.

If you think drivers can use marijuana and drive in legalized States, without a test for impairment to make a determination of legality to
drive and in many cases with a test...then the courts will make it clear to you. Have marijuana on you; poor or of color..Arrested, based on officers opinion of guide lines.

I'm not against the legalization. Show me anywhere that I have stated that.

I want everyone to know that using the laws that most States use for drunk or under the influence driving
is biased toward the wealthy getting off with fines and the poor going to jail.

WE need to make it clear that just because marijuana is legal, it doesn't mean you are safe to drive while under the influence. EVER

I have not heard that message STRONG and CLEAR from legalization advocates. I have looked.

And if you tell me there is no increase in traffic accidents, injury or death in legal States, tell me what will be your threshold.

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President Obama Says Marijuana Should Be Treated Like Alcohol [View all] dixiegrrrrl Dec 2016 OP

GREAT.. Now, pangaia Dec 2016 #1

Executive Order NOW! Lint Head Dec 2016 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Dec 2016 #6

i'm pretty sure he really can do that by executive order too Amishman Dec 2016 #27

I suspect Trump would just undo it as the current laws on the books help cstanleytech Dec 2016 #59

Probably so. Or more than likely. Lint Head Dec 2016 #60

Except that... SHRED Dec 2016 #3

Well....Ya See..... SoCalMusicLover Dec 2016 #9

He could reschedule it today. n/t Qutzupalotl Dec 2016 #4

Yeah, He Really Did A Lot On That In His 8 Years SoCalMusicLover Dec 2016 #5

Sarcasm noted SHRED Dec 2016 #7

I was thinking the same thing. The scheduling of marijuana has been an issue throughout his Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #58

Interesting Calculating Dec 2016 #8

He could make it schedule 2, today. With a stroke of his pen. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #16

He does talk a good game though Leontius Dec 2016 #45

He leaves the room in those "comfortable shoes" he promised to walk picket lines wearing. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #46

+1 SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #63

Gonna be hard to do unless or until there is an on site test for driving under the influence. Tikki Dec 2016 #10

Would be interesting to see how the Western states are handling the driving issue. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2016 #11

Money over peoples' accidents, injury or death. Tikki Dec 2016 #12

Oh, bullshit. Legalization is working fine and there isn't any increase in any of those. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #13

This Calculating Dec 2016 #14

People have been drinking alcohol forever...and people are injured, and killed in accidents... Tikki Dec 2016 #18

Funny, I've heard over and over the message "don't drive under the influence" Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #20

I, also, had a relative killed by a drunk driver. My S-I-L. The poster you posted was not... Tikki Dec 2016 #24

You might do better with one specific to California. That is part of Oregon's legalization regime. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #28

Thank you...I am all about the driving, I have never been against someone hanging out with MJ. Tikki Dec 2016 #31

I can tell you, as someone who lives in a place with up and running recreational legalization Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #32

Also, measure 64 (California) specifically allocates tax revenue towards that specific end. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #29

Families and people's lives have been torn apart because of alcohol. YOHABLO Dec 2016 #64

Its funny how people invested in these scare tactics treat it like some vague hypothetical Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #15

A rich feller in Delray Beach, FL tom_kelly Dec 2016 #22

That's already illegal gollygee Dec 2016 #40

This means the Republicans will be screaming for enforcement in 'legal' states Strelnikov_ Dec 2016 #17

Gee, that's just swell. Gonna do anything about it? progressoid Dec 2016 #19

Ummmm the Controlled Substance Act gives the executive branch this power... RAFisher Dec 2016 #21

He could deschedule it entirely, of course... and Trump could reverse it on day one. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #23

But would Trump do so? Calculating Dec 2016 #33

I don't think the political calculus for reversing a last minute descheduling is all that different Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #35

49 days left of his presidency and now. He's been one of the most anti-Pot presidents in memory Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #25

"one of the most anti-Pot presidents in memory"- that's an absurd allegation. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #30

Umm. . .no. Put the Kool Aid down. here are seven sources to prove you're wrong. Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #36

You will note, most of those are prior to 2013 and the Cole Memo. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #37

You believe your kool aid. I'll believe my eyes. Thank you for playing. Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #38

Sorry, but it's a discussion board. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #41

Or you just block the person who lowered this into insults. Bye. Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #56

Sure, that's another option. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #57

Good for him! Warpy Dec 2016 #26

I just wish awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #34

With all the money to be made by businesses though profit and governments through taxation Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #39

I'm gonna miss this guy. I actually think this issue may have been TuslaUltra Dec 2016 #42

I do too. blue cat Dec 2016 #43

I think he butted heads with some serious institutional inertia Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #44

maybe tell that to incoming AG Sessions? 0rganism Dec 2016 #47

He reminds me of Elmer Fudd .. on the redneck side. YOHABLO Dec 2016 #49

Tell keebler Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #50

All I can say is DUH! YOHABLO Dec 2016 #48

On his way out the door? Abq_Sarah Dec 2016 #51

Ohhhhh, Barry, WHY didn't you make this decision a year ago? napi21 Dec 2016 #52

Why is he saying this now? Internationalist Dec 2016 #53

I always treat my blunt with a beer chaser😎 benld74 Dec 2016 #54

He's right. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #55

Then do something before leaving office! IronLionZion Dec 2016 #61

There are many arguments to be made that rescheduling wouldn't help and might hurt. Descheduling Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #62

There's only one way to find out for sure IronLionZion Dec 2016 #65

You're right about that. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #67

It should be treated as a freedom of choice issue. There are lots of responsible users. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2016 #66

Probably said above: we're all going to need plenty of marijuana once Trump takes over. C Moon Dec 2016 #68