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100. The US government does zero exit controls. We're pretty much unique in that

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 10:13 PM

Dec 2016

It's one reason we can't really "fix" undocumented immigration: we don't actually know who is and isn't in the country right now.

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Do you have a passport? [View all] Cyrano Nov 2016 OP

Good heads-up, thanks. Mine about to expire. Hortensis Nov 2016 #1

I believe the renewal fee is $110.00 if you haven't checked yet. justhanginon Nov 2016 #42

Wow, that seems high! I got my first passport in 1999 and have been meaning to renew it Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2016 #49

Yes...it is that much. For a new one, anyway. MustBeTheBooz Nov 2016 #63

Yes. You can also apply through UPS and the USPS Hortensis Dec 2016 #68

yes Angry Dragon Nov 2016 #2

Mine is good until 2019 liberal N proud Nov 2016 #3

I am trying to envision hordes of US citizens establishing colonies in neighboring countries. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #4

Already over 8 million, non-military, American expats. sinkingfeeling Nov 2016 #46

And how do such expatriates influence affairs in the US? guillaumeb Nov 2016 #52

Most of the 8 million have retained their American citizenship and can vote sinkingfeeling Nov 2016 #62

And many of us SoCalNative Dec 2016 #90

US doesn't have residency requirements in order to vote SoCalNative Dec 2016 #91

Holy shit. The level of hysteria in this place has reached pure comedy. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #5

"Those who cannot remember the past are Cyrano Nov 2016 #12

I'm game: what historical lesson is telling you that your reactions in the OP are somehow rational? Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #29

Passport doesn't equal immigration status. elehhhhna Nov 2016 #55

Yeah, but his OP said to leave the country. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #59

And what? Hide as an illegal alien? Where? Is he only talking to billionaires here? elehhhhna Nov 2016 #60

I'm trying to find out. It's one of the most bizarre OPs I've ever seen. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #61

How long does he think I can hide out and live in Cancn elehhhhna Nov 2016 #65

BuzzClick, just GETTING a passport may become more Hortensis Dec 2016 #70

Thanks, Hortensis Cyrano Dec 2016 #80

Yes. "It is, simultaneously, none and all of these things." Hortensis Dec 2016 #81

LOL. The OP forgot to mention that having a passport does not equal immigration leftofcool Dec 2016 #103

all in order. Doesn't expire til 2018. CTyankee Nov 2016 #6

Nope, never had one. rug Nov 2016 #7

Consider it. Think. Cyrano Nov 2016 #16

Bella, ciao. rug Nov 2016 #21

No doubt, anyone who disagrees with you either does not think or knows nothing of history. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #79

I do, and I live on the Canadian border. Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #8

I do. cwydro Nov 2016 #9

Yes, I do HockeyMom Nov 2016 #10

Yes, "Papers, please" may soon be dreaded words here Cyrano Nov 2016 #27

How can a state make a requirement for a passport? pangaia Nov 2016 #38

No, it's not HockeyMom Nov 2016 #43

But, states have nothing to do with issuing passports. pangaia Nov 2016 #44

She's talking about needing those documents...... Amaril Dec 2016 #86

Got it. Thanks.. pangaia Dec 2016 #89

No HockeyMom Dec 2016 #92

Humm... pangaia Dec 2016 #93

You wouldn't be HockeyMom Dec 2016 #97

I know. I was talking somewhat tongue in cheek.. pangaia Dec 2016 #98

Not when you renew dhol82 Dec 2016 #102

Same here peggysue2 Dec 2016 #105

I did not. adnoid Dec 2016 #107

My passport in relation to presidential politics... shanen Dec 2016 #69

renewed ours this year.... mike_c Nov 2016 #11

Just applied for mine at the USPO today... money well spent Freethinker65 Nov 2016 #13

I'm on my third passport. Aristus Nov 2016 #14

I am getting one. n/t Horse with no Name Nov 2016 #15

I have 2 passports. Dual citizenship. AngryAmish Nov 2016 #17

A passport is an important document and all US citizens should get theirs PJMcK Nov 2016 #18

I agree with your post bdamomma Dec 2016 #88

got mine onethatcares Nov 2016 #19

You should have asked his name when you took it from him. Quackers Dec 2016 #113

are you onethatcares Dec 2016 #114

Yes. mnhtnbb Nov 2016 #20

Don't have one, don't see any need to get one. oneshooter Nov 2016 #22

Curious as to how you did that. cwydro Dec 2016 #72

Eight years in the USMC, oneshooter Dec 2016 #73

Aha! cwydro Dec 2016 #74

Yes . . . and a Canadian/American husband. Vinca Nov 2016 #23

You may need to show it to vote in 2018 jpak Nov 2016 #24

Couldn't agree more Cyrano Nov 2016 #30

Yes and am making arrangements to move to our grantcart Nov 2016 #25

My first thought was the Gestapo asking for "papers." rzemanfl Nov 2016 #26

Don't need one sarisataka Nov 2016 #28

Had one since age 21 CountAllVotes Nov 2016 #31

Ahead of you. Laffy Kat Nov 2016 #32

i encourage everyone to get one Txbluedog Nov 2016 #33

Yes, I always keep mine current treestar Nov 2016 #34

Calm down Travis_0004 Nov 2016 #35

Seriously n/t PasadenaTrudy Nov 2016 #50

I think I'm going to get one in the next couple of months. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2016 #36

I have one but I'm not running away from anything, panader0 Nov 2016 #37

Me neither. If I do leave the USA, it will not be permanent. . . DinahMoeHum Dec 2016 #76

Expired. But I'll fight benld74 Nov 2016 #39

yes, but I wil always fight these fascist bastards Skittles Nov 2016 #40

If you cut and run from this fascist and his goons, all you are KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #106

Yep. And renewed my sons' passport day after election. Barack_America Nov 2016 #41

I got my first passport in 1970, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2016 #45

I carry mine everyday in my briefcase. Been doing so for years. beaglelover Nov 2016 #54

Mine's good until 2020. This is my third one. sinkingfeeling Nov 2016 #47

Canadian passport here. I need to check my expiration date. KewlKat Nov 2016 #48

No, I've never had one but I sure think it would be Raine Nov 2016 #51

Yes, have had one since I was 2. beaglelover Nov 2016 #53

Yes theglammistress Nov 2016 #56

Had trouble getting one scscholar Nov 2016 #57

Every country on Earth requires you to have a passport to enter. Ace Rothstein Nov 2016 #64

Which is fine for them, but it is wrong four our country to not allow us to leave scscholar Dec 2016 #75

The only people that disallow us to leave are the airline employees. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #84

The US government does zero exit controls. We're pretty much unique in that Recursion Dec 2016 #100

But you have to go somewhere... scscholar Dec 2016 #111

I'm sure you are quite the scholar dumbcat Dec 2016 #112

The US government is requires us to get their permission to get a passport scscholar Dec 2016 #116

But a passport is not required to leave the country Recursion Dec 2016 #119

Why do you keep bringing up the US government? They don't do anything to keep you from leaving Recursion Dec 2016 #115

Yep, expires in 2018 mountain grammy Nov 2016 #58

Just renewed it this summer. dflprincess Nov 2016 #66

Just renewed mine last month - not because of the election, but for some petronius Dec 2016 #67

Only for the last 48 years. DFW Dec 2016 #71

Perhaps the folks who want to run and hide should do so... brooklynite Dec 2016 #77

I think the elderly and children should flee now while they still can. This isn't KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #117

I use mine simply for vacations rather than melodramatic pronouncements of opposition. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #78

Three words: one-party state. - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #118

My wife and I did just in case Trump won, sylvanus Dec 2016 #82

i have never tried airpot. Good? deaniac21 Dec 2016 #83

Have 2 passports. Tracer Dec 2016 #85

Same here! KatyMan Dec 2016 #87

Thanks for the reminder. I need to renew mine. Coventina Dec 2016 #94

Just expired last year, but I still carry it with me as backup ID. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #95

It's incredibly easy to renew your passport PJMcK Dec 2016 #99

I know, I should. I have just been lazy. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #101

Oh yeah angel823 Dec 2016 #96

Yes, the entire family does. And my husband has dual citizenship (American/Irish) Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 #104

I have two samir.g Dec 2016 #108

Just renewed today. Liberal In Texas Dec 2016 #109

Having a passport means nothing yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #110