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cilla4progress

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51. Very interesting
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:35 AM
Dec 2016

We don't hear this point of view often. I think you've hit on something discussing hobbies and depression.

I live in a rural area in eastern WA, conservative area with low wage jobs. I'm college-educated, spouse and I are professionals. We and our friends here find plenty to do - outdoor hobbies, hiking, skiing, horses. So, OK, these take money. Our values are those of old 60s-70s back to the land hippies. Our local friends who are blue collar and likely Trump supporters fish and hunt.

I think there is also something in there about people feeling like there is something to strive for. That there is a reason to be straight in order to learn and at least acquire skills for a trade, if they aren't the book learning type. So, like you say, when their only realistic option is minimum wage jobs, that's not going to do it.

My husband works for the local government. These remain some of the best jobs in rural America. Wages here are low otherwise.

I'm trying to have empathy for these folks. Still working on it.

they're not voting against Medicaid and SSI. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #1
+1! eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #2
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #16
And against a woman's right to choose. SharonAnn Dec 2016 #34
Exactly madokie Dec 2016 #41
And fall back on the usual RW "solutions"... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #3
Just finished a book called "American Pain" that talked about the pill mills in Florida LiberalLoner Dec 2016 #7
Well, that's true too, just....reading this book feels like another piece of LiberalLoner Dec 2016 #4
Book sounds like propaganda to me. I'll pass on it. standingtall Dec 2016 #5
WE CAN'T AFFOR THEM!!!! Doreen Dec 2016 #33
Which states are voting against Medicaid and SSI? babylonsister Dec 2016 #6
When Clinton and the GOP passed welfare reform hollowdweller Dec 2016 #8
Great comment, +1 LiberalLoner Dec 2016 #10
Very interesting cilla4progress Dec 2016 #51
Most of the book isn't about the Medicaid fraud, only one chapter, the rest was LiberalLoner Dec 2016 #9
It is a huge problem in my county. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2016 #17
That's what we see in MT too. No jobs, no hope, drugs and booze fill the void. LiberalLoner Dec 2016 #20
Here's 2 funny (sort of ) stories about that. hollowdweller Dec 2016 #26
This is exactly what the book was taking about... LiberalLoner Dec 2016 #36
I hear similar stories. nt lumberjack_jeff Dec 2016 #50
best friends daughter gets ssi dembotoz Dec 2016 #11
Yeah, it's not a good solution. Not saying I agree. Just this book LiberalLoner Dec 2016 #12
As the parent of a special needs son, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #14
(most) State and federal law uses "developmental disability" nt lumberjack_jeff Dec 2016 #15
True, as do many social and medical professionals. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #18
"special needs" is useless. We all have special needs. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2016 #19
We could debate it I suppose, but I am simply saying that in our circles, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #21
Really. It floors me when somebody is jealous of somebody on SSI. hollowdweller Dec 2016 #28
Yes, that $735 a month really allows for independent living. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #29
Some of them vote against these benefits when the benefits go to non-whites. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #13
Its hard not to be jaded Bear Creek Dec 2016 #23
You are in Ohio I assume? guillaumeb Dec 2016 #24
Portsmouth Bear Creek Dec 2016 #31
I think many people think of Ohio as Cleveland and Cincinnati, not the rural southern part. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #32
The chapter was on Portsmouth, Ohio. About the clinic Dr. David Procter set up and LiberalLoner Dec 2016 #37
The are I worked as a deputy saw lots of abuse too Lee-Lee Dec 2016 #39
Seen it Bear Creek Dec 2016 #42
And it leaves less for those who have real need to access Lee-Lee Dec 2016 #43
Agreeed Bear Creek Dec 2016 #47
Market Street right on the cover Bear Creek Dec 2016 #22
+1 LiberalLoner Dec 2016 #27
Sorry, but that's silly. Texasgal Dec 2016 #25
It is Bear Creek Dec 2016 #30
How do you explain all the children Texasgal Dec 2016 #35
Around here Bear Creek Dec 2016 #40
They aren't voting against social programs, they're voting against "the other." Vinca Dec 2016 #38
That is true Bear Creek Dec 2016 #45
This all leaves madokie Dec 2016 #44
Controlled Bear Creek Dec 2016 #46
None of them came by way of me madokie Dec 2016 #48
+1 great post! People who actually need pain meds often don't LiberalLoner Dec 2016 #52
I doubt seriously if most Trump voters have read the book. Or make any sort of connection between raccoon Dec 2016 #49
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