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57. Partisan positioning aside, I'm not sure the political

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Fri Dec 2, 2016, 06:39 PM

Dec 2016

arena is the place I would begin looking for a goody two shoes type.

Also I'm not sure a goody two shoes type would do us any good if he or she could not rise to the occasion of the frequent knife fights out in the alley, which IMO more accurately defines politics than peanut farming.

On a more personal note, Carter's post-presidency has been wonderful, but for some time in the party he was from the Scoop Jackson wing (and even placed Jackson's name in nomination at our convention). Ted Kennedy challenged Carter in part because Carter was not felt by many of the core Democratic constituency groups to represent them.

I want somebody who's street savvy, not afraid to fight back under challenge, and who stands tall for those core constituency groups.

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We need to run a goody goody two shoes,i.e. super clean guy like Jimmy Carter in 2020. [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 OP

I like it Auggie Dec 2016 #1

He ran in the aftermath of Watergate. It was an excellent message and he was an excellent messenger. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #3

Spot on. The DNC needs to identify a few individuals NOW and groom them ASAP. Auggie Dec 2016 #11

exactly nt NRQ891 Dec 2016 #2

Political jiu-jitsu DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #5

Carter wan't a bad president, a lot of long brewing problems blew up at once NRQ891 Dec 2016 #6

And fall out from Nixon's wage and price controls. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #7

"It's only lying if you don't believe it" CincyDem Dec 2016 #4

Trump could set that up for us, but... HassleCat Dec 2016 #8

All they could get on him is he told Playboy "he had lust in his heart". DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #9

Have you forgotten The Rabbit? nt. marybourg Dec 2016 #43

Martin O'Malley ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #10

He's one. I'd try to identify a few more and test who has the best chemistry. Auggie Dec 2016 #13

Found this ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #22

Tim Kaine is a really, really good guy and fits the bill but I was underwhelmed by him. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #33

Yeah--I don't think he wants it either ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #37

Same here Auggie Dec 2016 #44

Forget Hickenlooper. Laffy Kat Dec 2016 #41

I believe Tim Kaine has already said he's not running in 2020. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #54

But then by 2020 treestar Dec 2016 #63

Yes! lake loon Dec 2016 #30

And he has gotten nowhere in the primary. LisaL Dec 2016 #62

How'd that work out for ya? GeorgeGist Dec 2016 #12

How did what work out for me, Mr. Gist? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #14

What? ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #16

Maybe he liked Ford or Reagan. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #18

True that ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #19

With the passage of time Jimmy Carter looks better and better. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #21

Yeah ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #23

Where will we find one with the guts and the messaging to be able to turn down the money? Orsino Dec 2016 #15

Why are there so many posts about 2020 lately? PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #17

We can do both ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #20

I haven't seen any threads talking about PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #24

Start one ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #25

I'm new here but I suppose I shall. PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #26

I can't speak for others, brer cat Dec 2016 #48

Obama came out of this strategy. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #27

Fair point. PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #28

Someone like that would lose in a landslide. LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #29

A squeaky clean guy or gal who appeals to our better angels would lose in a landslide ? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #34

Those kinds of people tend to be boring and unaccomplished. Not all, but tend to be... stevenleser Dec 2016 #47

Well trump hosting bunga bunga parties gwheezie Dec 2016 #31

Trump ran on an "I'll lie if I feel like it" platform and he won mainer Dec 2016 #32

Somebody like Thomas Perez hollowdweller Dec 2016 #35

It won't be that easy. Paladin Dec 2016 #36

He lost the pop vote by 2,500,000. He won the EC by 80,000 votes. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #38

Three cheers for red, white and motherfucking blue. Paladin Dec 2016 #39

The E C is an anachronistic crap shoot that is more likely to screw us than them. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #40

Al Gore was a purity candidate. Buzz cook Dec 2016 #42

LOL! America just elected the anti-boy scout Txbluedog Dec 2016 #45

Hillary is a goody two shoes bigtree Dec 2016 #46

like Tim Kaine ? JI7 Dec 2016 #49

All that baggage sure held Trump back. LisaL Dec 2016 #50

Disagree Lithos Dec 2016 #51

We could run somebody we found in a monastery Warpy Dec 2016 #52

I don't think Trump is going to last through the first term. Zen Democrat Dec 2016 #53

The Republicans will make up fake scandals against any candidate we run. StevieM Dec 2016 #55

It only works if there is some truth behind it loyalsister Dec 2016 #56

Trump has so many facts in his history and that didn't stop him from running or being elected. LisaL Dec 2016 #58

The OP was about our future candidates loyalsister Dec 2016 #60

Media looked into it plenty. LisaL Dec 2016 #61

Partisan positioning aside, I'm not sure the political saltpoint Dec 2016 #57

O'Malley fwgmaryland Dec 2016 #64

Agree. He was overlookied, under-reported, saltpoint Dec 2016 #65

It's interesting to me that volstork Dec 2016 #59