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Seasider

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62. It won't be easy as it sounds

Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:45 PM

Dec 2016

As elections go in this country, Democrats fall in love and Republicans fall in line. So unless Democrats find that candidate who will excite their base, it's not gonna matter how qualified and smart that candidate is. Trump will have the advantage of being an incumbent and unless things are in really bad shape, he will be hard to defeat in 2020. That's the sad truth. The system is set up to favor incumbents. In the past 50 years, I can only think of 2 examples where an incumbent President lost his re-election bid, 1980 and 1992. Both cases, you had a perfect storm of the incumbent losing popularity and the challenger igniting voters anxious for change.

Out of all the names listed for 2020, I just don't see anyone yet who could generate enough excitement and unseat an incumbent President but it's early.

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Who gives us the best chance of taking down Trump in 2020? [View all] redstateblues Dec 2016 OP

I doubt he's even still president by then nini Dec 2016 #1

Too soon to ask that question. Let's wait & see who rises to the occasion. Now is the time to napi21 Dec 2016 #2

Have you seen the competitive races for 2018? exboyfil Dec 2016 #5

You'd never know we had a senate race on December 10th 2016 yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #11

I hope we can win all the state houses for the caucus so it has to be somebody strong MattP Dec 2016 #3

We'll be taking down republicans, but not Trump TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2016 #4

That would be nice but I'm afraid it's wishful thinking redstateblues Dec 2016 #34

You mean taking down Pence? Freddie Dec 2016 #6

Biden. ALBliberal Dec 2016 #7

Trump, himself RandySF Dec 2016 #8

How about we stop looking for a presidential savior.... vi5 Dec 2016 #9

Absolutely!! LAS14 Dec 2016 #24

100% yes Worktodo Dec 2016 #54

This!!!!!! BainsBane Dec 2016 #59

You'd do better to focus on your local and state elections MineralMan Dec 2016 #10

Can't we talk about both? Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #12

You can talk about whatever you want. Just vote in MineralMan Dec 2016 #14

No. Not at all Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #17

yes, but we are much weaker in the states, so it's kind of weird that we neglect states completely. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #18

I agree Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #25

i would think in a state that is in tatters for the democrats would be La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #31

I think that we are ignored because it really is solidly red Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #40

yeah the too blue and too red problems are kinda similar. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #41

Yup Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #46

I'm in rural Virginia, between Lynchburg and Roanoke. phylny Dec 2016 #48

I think that your last part is a good idea for the DNC to look at Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #56

The Democratic party can't run a politician and expect to beat Trump. sarcasmo Dec 2016 #13

Who do you have in mind? workinclasszero Dec 2016 #16

I think the poster provided that answer: The Rock etherealtruth Dec 2016 #64

now is the time to get dems running in local and state levels. that will help 2018/2020 take care of msongs Dec 2016 #15

Andrew Cuomo, Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris, Xavier Becerra La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #19

I liked O'Malley a lot in the debates, but... LAS14 Dec 2016 #26

might be an issue of practice. let's see. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #30

I like your list... JHan Dec 2016 #27

i honestly dont know why people prattle on that we dont have a deep bench. we do. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #33

God, no. Not Cuomo. vi5 Dec 2016 #38

Cuomo is a highly effective governor. He is well respected and should def be in the game La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #42

He's been great on gay rights, but not much else. vi5 Dec 2016 #44

He's also been good on fracking and supporting ny La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #45

If there is an electoral college still djg21 Dec 2016 #52

LeBron James maybe? 0rganism Dec 2016 #20

. SonofaFidel Dec 2016 #21

Kanye? kentuck Dec 2016 #22

isn't Kanye in the psych ward atm? Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #36

Fuck Kanye. He said he didn't vote but would have voted for Trump. n/t JustinL Dec 2016 #50

Seth Moulton of MA. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #23

oooooh, I am liking him Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #35

Very progressive AND a veteran! smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #39

Actually, I would propose Seth Moulton and Katherine Clark smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #61

This guy? rzemanfl Dec 2016 #28

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON! Table Dec 2016 #29

You the real MVP JHan Dec 2016 #32

The drive to end Medicare will ding some of these Repug Senators redstateblues Dec 2016 #37

Kamala Harris or Melinda Gates or Travis Kalanick. CK_John Dec 2016 #43

Off the top of my head Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #47

So, are we starting from an assumption that there Bettie Dec 2016 #49

Joe Biden, Michelle Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Tom Hanks, or someone of similar star power n/t JustinL Dec 2016 #51

Tim Ryan looks like a good bet; TuslaUltra Dec 2016 #53

Is Cory Booker a possibility? phylny Dec 2016 #55

That seems like a great idea! Booker/Warren (or even Warren/Booker)? Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #57

It's far too early to say. MineralMan Dec 2016 #58

Bernie! Joe941 Dec 2016 #60

It won't be easy as it sounds Seasider Dec 2016 #62

When you're trying to unseat an unhinged bully-maniac, you might not need "excitement." MADem Dec 2016 #67

I wish Gavin Newsom would run. GaYellowDawg Dec 2016 #63

I would like to start now bdamomma Dec 2016 #65

I'm still an O'Malley fan, but my eyes are fixed on 2018 right now Recursion Dec 2016 #66