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MineralMan

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Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:44 PM Dec 2016

There are artist's lofts in old warehouses in most [View all]

large cities. Some of them are legal, inspected, and up to building codes, but many are not. Some cities, typically, do not proactively go and inspect industrial buildings like these. Even if they know they are being used for other purposes, they often look the other way when people remodel them on an ad hoc basis. Even when there are complaints and inspections reveal building code issues, enforcement measures are half-hearted in many places.

Sadly, that was the case in Oakland, CA, and many people lost their lives in that disastrous fire. They didn't know they were going to a party in an unsafe building. That was the last thing on their minds. We don't know exactly how the fire started, but it did start, and the people inside could not escape the building because of its many flaws and hazards.

Artists need places to work that they can afford. There is no question about that. However, cities and other jurisdictions have a responsibility to ensure that such buildings are safe for the ways people are using them. Holding parties on a mezzanine in a warehouse that has no safe stairway is unsafe, by definition. Welded steel windows with reinforced glass in them, and that only can be opened to a small angle for ventilation cannot provide a safe way to escape from an upstairs open area. Safety could have been established by replacing windows on both ends with exits and outside steel stairways or fire escapes.

None of that was done. Nobody insisted that they be done. Many of the people who had spaces in that building didn't know that their areas were unsafe, either. Electrical circuits were, no doubt, overloaded and inadequate for the way they were being used. Partitions did not reach the ceiling, which allowed fire to spread the full length and width of the building quickly and in a deadly way.

We often object to heavy-handed enforcement of building codes. It's expensive to prepare an industrial building for occupation, even for artist's studios. And those studios are ALWAYS slept in by the people who use them. Always, no matter what the rules are. But, failure to enforce sensible building codes that help prevent disastrous fires isn't tyranny. It's a matter of public safety. There are reasons for those codes.

What happened in Oakland is a horror-story. It could have been prevented, but was not. Many people have blame in this.

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Building codes. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #1
As posted in another OP Jake Stern Dec 2016 #2
That's why many of these places are so dangerous bhikkhu Dec 2016 #9
Chances are it would have lasted years as live/work space for artists, Warpy Dec 2016 #19
Yes. Having regulations in place leads to marybourg Dec 2016 #3
Most people know nothing about building construction, MineralMan Dec 2016 #4
Get rid of artists. Who cares? librechik Dec 2016 #5
Sadly, many people feel exactly that way. MineralMan Dec 2016 #6
Flint attitudes jack69 Dec 2016 #7
That's not a term that's familiar to me. MineralMan Dec 2016 #8
What's a Flint attitude? Iggo Dec 2016 #11
There is an organization called Artspace that is trying to help this situation. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #10
There are some find artist's loft buildings in the Twin Cities. MineralMan Dec 2016 #12
I lived in a workspace loft in downtown Seattle for a few years NWCorona Dec 2016 #13
I've never actually lived in such a space, but have known many MineralMan Dec 2016 #14
That sounds like my old building. It was wood and brick and we had a few welders as well NWCorona Dec 2016 #18
Oooh, you've been to my studio in Cambridge in the 70s! Warpy Dec 2016 #22
Yeah, something like that. MineralMan Dec 2016 #23
even when an owner gets a violation notice(s), they often ignore wordpix Dec 2016 #15
That's true. Different cities take different approaches to MineralMan Dec 2016 #16
Oakland death toll climbs to 24, and more expected. MineralMan Dec 2016 #17
the Oakland space may be different KT2000 Dec 2016 #20
The arts encompass many things. MineralMan Dec 2016 #21
yes - but where were the spaces KT2000 Dec 2016 #24
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