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81. The point wasn't that Bernie helped Dems

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:36 PM

Dec 2016

He didn't. He cost us the election. That doesn't mean the rallies weren't successful or a good idea. It also doesn't mean Bernie should be written off. He screwed up, yes, but that doesn't mean he gets kicked out of the family.

I'm not talking about Bernie-only rallies. I'm talking about Dem rallies where Bernie shows up and speaks, not as a 2020 candidate but as a leader in a movement. And there should be multiple voices there. Like I say, it should be TED Talks meets Chautauqua meets fair.

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We need a Democratic superstar [View all] Cyrano Dec 2016 OP

We need SOME Democratic superstars.. coco22 Dec 2016 #1

I nominate Gavin Newsom... pbmus Dec 2016 #2

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Yeah, Newsom. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #23

Exactly..way ahead of any D , sometimes including Jerry pbmus Dec 2016 #51

He was way out in front on marriage equality ms liberty Dec 2016 #56

Yeah Newsom. applegrove Dec 2016 #76

One of those will be moving out of the White House soon. MineralMan Dec 2016 #3

who the fuck is "we"? Everybody here voted for Hillary. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #24

We is everyone in this country. MineralMan Dec 2016 #44

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Hillary is the most admired woman in the world 20 x now. chowder66 Dec 2016 #10

Far too many are getting "news" from wingnut websites Cyrano Dec 2016 #12

I agree with that for the core trump supporters chowder66 Dec 2016 #15

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Yes, without a doubt we need that too Cyrano Dec 2016 #13

Yes!!! loyalsister Dec 2016 #16

A "great leader" is but a wedge to attain power Cyrano Dec 2016 #17

What happened to the Civil Rights Movement after MLK died? loyalsister Dec 2016 #28

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #33

And we need to take back the media. Initech Dec 2016 #65

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How about John Stewart or... RealityChik Dec 2016 #14

So, We Need A Top Down Revolution? That Is The Antithesis of What We Need... TomCADem Dec 2016 #18

You're absolutely right. See post #17 Cyrano Dec 2016 #19

FDR - "I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it." TomCADem Dec 2016 #21

I agree!! Chemisse Dec 2016 #39

For a superstar to rise, we need a forum for them to rise in. gulliver Dec 2016 #20

We can have 10 Democratic superstars. If the media doesn't cover them, they don't exist. Autumn Dec 2016 #25

That's why we need "rallies, Chautauquas, fairs, etc." gulliver Dec 2016 #30

They didn't cover Bernie's rallies and they were large. nt Autumn Dec 2016 #31

This is false, come people... they didn't wall to wall his like DPutin's but they covered them and uponit7771 Dec 2016 #34

DPutin is a showman .... an entertainer on stage .... behind the scenes not so sure he is the same Kathy M Dec 2016 #45

Bernie's rallies were successes gulliver Dec 2016 #35

I agree. My fear is that, as in the past the media Autumn Dec 2016 #38

Yeah, so were Nader's. How's that revolution going? ehrnst Dec 2016 #73

The point wasn't that Bernie helped Dems gulliver Dec 2016 #81

that is totally untrue. Unsupportable. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #40

Good luck with facts.... (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #75

Yeah, tell it to Nader. ehrnst Dec 2016 #74

Next time around may want to lay off the amount of entertainers ..... Kathy M Dec 2016 #47

Maybe not so much at campaign rallies. gulliver Dec 2016 #61

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