General Discussion

davidn3600

(6,342 posts) Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:55 PM Dec 2016

Why is Boeing charging $4 billion anyway? [View all]

Doesn't Boeing really only construct the air frame and then outsource most of everything else? I know Air Force One has some extra capabilities and all. But $4 billion does seem kind of steep for two 747's and will take EIGHT years to build.

Going beyond Trump, I've always been critical of the costs of contracts that the Pentagon and Congress just seems to rubber stamp regardless of the price tag. But then all our social services, schools, and even other programs like NASA have to claw and scratch for every penny. Ridiculous. Im all for making Boeing claw for every penny too instead of just writing them a blank check every time the Air Force wants a new toy.

41 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Why is Boeing charging $4 billion anyway? [View all] davidn3600 Dec 2016 OP

I have been hearing it is more like $1.6 billion nt doc03 Dec 2016 #1

It is $4 billion according to GAO. former9thward Dec 2016 #5

The cost isn't 4 billion. It's been earmarked to cost 1.64 - Trump lied by... JHan Dec 2016 #2

Then the GAO is lying also. former9thward Dec 2016 #9

Ah didn't have that info, thanks much.. JHan Dec 2016 #13

That's what surprised me earlier when the White House tried to say it wasn't true. Quackers Dec 2016 #14

yep, the new planes will require badass upgrades, I don't mind it at all. JHan Dec 2016 #15

Sounds about right GummyBearz Dec 2016 #23

two aircraft not one -Air Force One is not ONE aircraft CreekDog Dec 2016 #17

yup JI7 Dec 2016 #19

"along with 2 or 3 others. " former9thward Dec 2016 #21

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #29

LOL former9thward Dec 2016 #32

oh your public post on DU is supposed to be a secret? CreekDog Dec 2016 #36

The poster I was replying to said it was 1.64 billion for the two. former9thward Dec 2016 #20

NO you tried to make Trump's $4billion seem true CreekDog Dec 2016 #27

The GAO says its true. former9thward Dec 2016 #28

"Including the purchase of TWO aircraft" TWO is not ONE CreekDog Dec 2016 #31

Hate to give you some facts. former9thward Dec 2016 #35

In this thread, you try to make it sounds like Trump's statement about the debate dates was true CreekDog Dec 2016 #34

Because they're not BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #3

why do you believe anything... dhill926 Dec 2016 #4

It's the number they've been saying in the media all day davidn3600 Dec 2016 #11

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #18

Can you please link me to the proof GummyBearz Dec 2016 #25

Here's a good explanation of the project and its costs: The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #6

Here's the local (Seattle) news' take. nolabear Dec 2016 #7

Trump always lies. eShirl Dec 2016 #8

Amazing the way people jump in to defend Trump. Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #10

I noticed that myself nt doc03 Dec 2016 #12

yup JI7 Dec 2016 #22

Amazing the way people defend corporate greed. former9thward Dec 2016 #24

In defense contracting the government knows how much profit the contractor is slated to make. tammywammy Dec 2016 #33

So all the thousands of posts on DU about defense corporate greed former9thward Dec 2016 #37

I would say the majority of DU doesn't have extensive knowledge of FAR 15 & TINA requirements. tammywammy Dec 2016 #39

He will never fly on it, since the in service date is 2024. Historic NY Dec 2016 #16

Why would it take 8 years to build an airplane? former9thward Dec 2016 #26

It's not the airplane... It's the other systems. Adrahil Dec 2016 #41

3.2 billion is the exact number..for 2 planes pbmus Dec 2016 #30

It's like the 200 dollar toilet seat demosincebirth Dec 2016 #38

So far there is $170 million contract leftyladyfrommo Dec 2016 #40