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gollygee

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50. I wish I could tell people there's a way to stop automation, but there isn't

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:03 AM

Dec 2016

There's huge money in it and no legal way to keep businesses from doing it.

We have to move to a universal income so that people who can't find jobs because of things like automation don't starve to death.

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Amazon on Monday unveiled the latest plan to automate American workers out of existence [View all] Kilgore Dec 2016 OP

While I am sure people will do this, a lot of people won't. There are enough people who still_one Dec 2016 #1

That isn't how this would work. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2016 #2

Are you talking about amazon fresh? This is a bit different. NWCorona Dec 2016 #3

Unless I don't understand it, looking at a live cam virtually is not the same thing as still_one Dec 2016 #5

Did you watch the video. It is a grocery store. Statistical Dec 2016 #18

No, I went to the NYPost link in the OP which described it as a virtual experience. Obviously, I still_one Dec 2016 #21

Did u watch the op video? lunasun Dec 2016 #33

The bright side is that there will be a bunch of higher skilled workers necessary to Hoyt Dec 2016 #4

Yes, area51 Dec 2016 #23

Roughly 40 percent of Americans have IQs 92 and below AngryAmish Dec 2016 #26

There are a LOT of things we need to find a way to do. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #27

People will flock to it. You'll be surrounded by people who look just like the ones in the video. NBachers Dec 2016 #6

People arent going to do it because they think it makes them hip Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #12

Thank you. I hate shopping. I hate having to identify all of my vegetable selections Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #20

He had an alien baby?? Really!! Kilgore Dec 2016 #25

You've never been to the Apple Store, have you... brooklynite Dec 2016 #7

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #11

I have, and it's dreadful. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #24

I've been in Apple Store and usually interface with a human. Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #65

It's available in every Apple Store for off the shelf items (software, keyboards, sound systems, etc brooklynite Dec 2016 #66

it gives me the creeps eleny Dec 2016 #8

Me, too - I like the cashiers and baggers at my local store csziggy Dec 2016 #14

No Self Check Out at Publix either HockeyMom Dec 2016 #39

Yes! And as soon as lines back up they open new ones csziggy Dec 2016 #51

Can I just go to the grocery store to eat, then? Ilsa Dec 2016 #9

I DEMAND THE RIGHT TO WAIT IN LINE FOR AN HOUR BEHIND ELDERLY COUPON ARGUMENT LADY! Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #10

That will appeal to the white working class! n/t kcr Dec 2016 #35

I think not wanting wait in interminably long lines cuts across all demographic categories Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #61

I can't wait . Service were I live is terrible and often quite discriminatory . If I can leave them lunasun Dec 2016 #38

"A futuristic store without any cashiers"... pipi_k Dec 2016 #13

Definitely depends on the store The Genealogist Dec 2016 #45

Adapt or die, right? It will take a while to get going industry wide. NightWatcher Dec 2016 #15

I think the title is misleading metalbot Dec 2016 #16

Well . . . . . "here comes trouble", then . . . . HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #28

And this "innovation" is not going to happen in east middle-of-nowhere Wisconsin alarimer Dec 2016 #44

They can't even answer the glaring problem of how a debt-strapped millennial buys things. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #47

yep - well said Locrian Dec 2016 #56

This is a sign of things to come. Next up, white-collar office workers. killbotfactory Dec 2016 #17

Yep. No one gives a shit because people stopped caring a long time ago. kcr Dec 2016 #37

More people are starting to come around to this eventuality. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #42

Automation is a reality of life and it 'could' be a wonderful thing. Statistical Dec 2016 #19

Within ten or 15 years workinclasszero Dec 2016 #22

Well, they won't. They're not getting any money either. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #29

But how will the robot know the piece of salmon you're returning is really rotten? Vinca Dec 2016 #30

Look up the definition of luddite Kilgore Dec 2016 #32

I don't have to look up the definition. We Luddites read. Vinca Dec 2016 #34

Shit. Saturday night grocery shopping is my main social event. IADEMO2004 Dec 2016 #31

I prefer Kroger's new service get the red out Dec 2016 #36

The don't require it; but they recognize the brick and mortar is still a "thing" brooklynite Dec 2016 #40

Remember the good old days of the Soviet Union? brooklynite Dec 2016 #41

Unbridled Capitalism or Soviet Russia. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #43

Wow, these responses. LisaM Dec 2016 #46

It's coming SubjectiveLife78 Dec 2016 #54

So there's a disconnect between people who think the Dems are out of touch LisaM Dec 2016 #57

It's not about wanting to give it up metalbot Dec 2016 #62

the reason this would be successful is because Working Class would use it also JI7 Dec 2016 #64

Ugh. LisaM Dec 2016 #70

Well, as my wife says, MineralMan Dec 2016 #48

After reading how they treat people at their warehouses LisaM Dec 2016 #52

Agree, see my post below. suffragette Dec 2016 #60

Don't know how many pipi_k Dec 2016 #67

You will always need people to fight wars. Yavin4 Dec 2016 #49

I wish I could tell people there's a way to stop automation, but there isn't gollygee Dec 2016 #50

But a universal income on top of basic benefits LisaM Dec 2016 #69

What's a "Cashier"? Have not seen one for a while. Nor a gas pump attendant. ksoze Dec 2016 #53

Mixed feelings matt819 Dec 2016 #55

Elon Musk is right, humans will need a guaranteed monthly income. sarcasmo Dec 2016 #58

Dire news for occupations with highest employment in the U.S. suffragette Dec 2016 #59

It makes me think about this horrible job killer RB TexLa Dec 2016 #63

Next week's headline: meadowlander Dec 2016 #68

goddamn mexican and chinese stealing all our jobs. how dare they? La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #71