General Discussion

MADem

(135,425 posts)

14. Where are you getting those figures?

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:26 PM

Dec 2016

15 percent of the black vote?

40 percent of the hispanic vote?

I've not heard percentages like those, anywhere.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-polarization-analysis-idUSKBN13I10B

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

68 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Democrats must own their values, Tea Party-style, not shift even more toward the mushy middle [View all] workinclasszero Dec 2016 OP

K and r dembotoz Dec 2016 #1

yup sfwriter Dec 2016 #2

Moving left sounds good to ideologues ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #3

Welcome to DU--you make some fair points. MADem Dec 2016 #4

That's true ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #5

Clinton's numbers keep going up, so that "underperformed Obama" MADem Dec 2016 #7

Clinton did underperform ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #8

Did she actually LOSE those states, though? MADem Dec 2016 #10

I'm more inclined to accept ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #13

You haven't noticed what's happening in Detroit? nt MADem Dec 2016 #24

I haven't been paying attention ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #25

I'd urge you to do some digging. MADem Dec 2016 #30

Again, there's no smoking guns ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #31

In Detroit, Michigan there appear to be discrepancies in the majority of vote counts pnwmom Dec 2016 #34

It's not fair to compare her to Obama because the courts pnwmom Dec 2016 #33

Agree with most of your posts, but disagree. We now know Hortensis Dec 2016 #38

Acting like Republicans isn't working for us Bettie Dec 2016 #6

Who said we had to act like Republicans? ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #11

Where are you getting those figures? MADem Dec 2016 #14

They are hypothetical ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #20

Come on, now--that's absurd. MADem Dec 2016 #23

Numbers don't lie. ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #35

Excuse me, you gave me hypothetical numbers, then you say "Numbers don't lie?" MADem Dec 2016 #39

Trump absolutely did not get 28 percent of the Latino vote. That article sites the exit polls, StevieM Dec 2016 #46

Many right wing websites are pushing these numbers, and they're nonsense. MADem Dec 2016 #47

I take that poll with a spoonful of salt ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #49

Fine, but the numbers we are talking about are the exit polls, which we know weren't right. StevieM Dec 2016 #50

The goal is not winning by moving to the right! guillaumeb Dec 2016 #54

I wouldn't call moving to the middle the same as moving to the right. ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #63

Being Republican Lite is a bad strategy. backscatter712 Dec 2016 #62

Owning one's values and subscribing to gridlock are not the same. LAS14 Dec 2016 #9

The message should be catered to the region a candidate is running in. PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #12

That' the best thing ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #15

This, exactly! When the fallout from their actions hits the marginal Twitler voter Squinch Dec 2016 #16

Are you under the impression that the "angry at the Establishment" crowd really wants Single-Payer? brooklynite Dec 2016 #18

I'm under the impression that when the angry at the establishment crowd can't get Squinch Dec 2016 #19

If you were right, I'd say most of those factors applied this year...who'd they pick? brooklynite Dec 2016 #22

I am. Check this article out: Squinch Dec 2016 #27

Nobody is offering a GOP mini-me ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #21

Those who say we need to ditch social issues, concentrate on economics only and/or appeal Squinch Dec 2016 #40

It's not a GOP mini-me move ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #48

Yes, people ARE saying that social issues and "identity politics" - which translates to social Squinch Dec 2016 #57

Identity politics and social issues are two different things ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #58

Social issues are the source of identity politics. I don't need you to define identity politics for Squinch Dec 2016 #59

No it's not ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #60

Big ideas and broad appeal are whats needed. We should not target any groups except working people jack_krass Dec 2016 #64

You can be broad ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #65

bs Skittles Dec 2016 #44

The key is not to be mushy REGARLESS of the policies brooklynite Dec 2016 #17

Democrats need to start fighting Republicans the way Republicans fight Democrats. TeamPooka Dec 2016 #26

By demagoguery and misinformation? ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #28

The GOP has taught America that 100% obstruction over ideals and values is the right thing to do. TeamPooka Dec 2016 #36

One core thing we need to change is to use graphic, pithy tag lines to get our points across. JudyM Dec 2016 #32

That's part of it. TeamPooka Dec 2016 #37

Sadly this is true. Which is why I hope "Twitler" catches on. Squinch Dec 2016 #43

It's War Bear Creek Dec 2016 #42

through gerrymandering, voter suppression, fake news, and help from Russia and the FBI? Skittles Dec 2016 #45

It's that simple malaise Dec 2016 #29

Move Left Bear Creek Dec 2016 #41

This is all a bunch of horseshit. moda253 Dec 2016 #51

Yes, I think some are forgetting that treestar Dec 2016 #52

All the talk about younger voters ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #53

Agree moda253 Dec 2016 #55

Yeah, we have great candidates and future candidates in the under 30 crowd ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #56

The early 50s and 40s crowd are a problem loyalsister Dec 2016 #67

Yeah ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #61

Yeah, except not Cosmocat Dec 2016 #66

Tea-party style is nauseating no matter the cause loyalsister Dec 2016 #68