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Hortensis

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19. Not sarcasm. And we're still a ways from losing

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 05:05 PM

Dec 2016

the right to abortion and much farther away from debtors' prisons. What has already come sooner is imprisoning mothers who have self-aborted.

But at some point, at which people disagree, there are TWO people involved. And it is well before 39 weeks. After that point, related to brain development, I am definitely one of those who would "force birth," as you put it, and I'm inclined to put it sooner rather than later, although 6 weeks is more than a little much. The heart's merely a mindless pump.

But certainly most experts agree that Roe v. Wade is flawed and needs adjustment, including justices who were involved with it. Its flaws make it vulnerable.

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Emboldened by Trump win, Ohio passes "heartbeat" law banning abortion at 6 WEEKS. [View all] Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 OP

Thank you for this, Maru.. Cha Dec 2016 #1

Thank you Cha. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #16

Ohio is sort of the anus of the USA these days isn't it? The_Casual_Observer Dec 2016 #2

LOL... Zing Zing Zingbah Dec 2016 #12

That's unconstitutional. shraby Dec 2016 #3

you think these people care about the constitution? Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #4

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #6

Exactly. Trump's specific goal is to overturn Roe vs Wade. This stuff is just the start. anneboleyn Dec 2016 #10

Yes it is gratuitous Dec 2016 #22

Yes, clearly not under Roe v. Wade treestar Dec 2016 #27

K&R Solly Mack Dec 2016 #5

Good, good.... Aviation Pro Dec 2016 #7

Hey, Ladies! Meet the man who wants to be up all in your business! Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #8

"Girls" get upset when you get loaded and Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #9

He sounds like a real piece of work. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #20

This should make the Trump apologists happy BainsBane Dec 2016 #11

Because buzzwords are cool and trendy! Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #14

And so it begins - the dismantling of progress made. MineralMan Dec 2016 #13

We did miss our chance...to really Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #15

I don't think this would be the worst thing in the world. Hortensis Dec 2016 #17

You forgot your sarcasm tag. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #18

Not sarcasm. And we're still a ways from losing Hortensis Dec 2016 #19

So you would force birth, in rape, in incest, in suicidal women? Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #23

I'm pro abortion, Maru, for any reason, right up to Hortensis Dec 2016 #29

You are pro forced birth. You said it yourself quite clearly. You don't trust women. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #30

What the fuck is going on? ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #34

At six weeks, the "person" you are talking about is the size of a lentil. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #36

Good grief. This reaction reminds me of what we're seeing Hortensis Dec 2016 #37

Post #17. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #38

WTF? What two people? etherealtruth Dec 2016 #40

Oh, barf. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #21

For years I have been saying that once a woman finds out she's pregnant, even two weeks pregnant, phylny Dec 2016 #24

You can't get an abortion before a heartbeat is detected, IIRC. ecstatic Dec 2016 #25

Empathy for the pockets of Ohio progressives ... Auggie Dec 2016 #26

Yes! I've already plastered this all over FB and my email list. Guilded Lilly Dec 2016 #28

yet even in this thread we are told this wouldn't be "the worst thing in the world" Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #31

Just do what you can do and stay focused on the Guilded Lilly Dec 2016 #32

I will be happy to surrender control of my body Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #35

What you said. ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #33

Maybe Kasich won't sign it. It will cost the state a fortune in court challenges. Vinca Dec 2016 #39