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shanen

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35. Must not be any actual investors here, just a bunch of impoverished Democrats?

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 09:29 PM

Dec 2016

The old brokers' saying goes "Buy on the rumor, sell on the news."

Right now they are buying on the rumors, and all the buying is driving the share prices up.

Later on, they will start getting the actual news, and they will start selling. A lot. Prices will be corrected. And how.

My own speculation on the worst news Trump will create would be a combined trade war and cyber war with Trump versus an alliance of China and India on the other side. Probably mediated via Nigerian mercenary hackers to keep their hands relatively clean. The problem is that the United States is tremendously dependent on computers and has almost no cyber defenses, while the Chinese are probably the worlds' leaders on the defense side, in addition to being much less vulnerable to attack. The Donald is still larning about "the cyber".

By the way, just reading some mathematical history and it talks about how tally sticks were involved in the origin of the word "stock" itself. You see they had these split sticks, and the monetary values were recorded in notches that went across the split. Each side kept one half of the split sticks...

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Any thoughts why the market is up so much? [View all] still_one Dec 2016 OP

Financials, energy (oil, nat gas), health ins, pharma.. pangaia Dec 2016 #1

Especially financials. They have gone through the roof. You are right, that says a lot still_one Dec 2016 #17

Not really. elleng Dec 2016 #2

I think as someone pointed out it seems to be sector specific, especially with regards to the still_one Dec 2016 #18

Yes, 'anticipation of deregulation,' elleng Dec 2016 #21

Telecoms up, among others. elleng Dec 2016 #24

They really shouldn't allow the AT&T Time Warner Cable to happen, but who knows still_one Dec 2016 #25

IDK Calculating Dec 2016 #3

Markets move about six months ahead of Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #4

Because the blinding light at the end of the tunnel is a train. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #5

+1. CrispyQ Dec 2016 #14

If anybody knew, they wouldn't be posting here taught_me_patience Dec 2016 #6

The only answer in this thread worth a damn. linuxman Dec 2016 #15

because the trend is up for the past few years and that continues? nt msongs Dec 2016 #7

Because Obama fixed all the problems GummyBearz Dec 2016 #8

To a large degree he brought the country out of the near economic collaspe that he still_one Dec 2016 #19

Continued easy money from the Fed Amishman Dec 2016 #9

The fed will be increasing interest rates though still_one Dec 2016 #20

Markets generally don't like not knowing what is going to happen el_bryanto Dec 2016 #10

Because they see opportunity and profits in deregulation Hortensis Dec 2016 #11

This is a good time to sell and hold cash. Yavin4 Dec 2016 #12

Even Bill Gross is recommending higher cash holdings and lower mnhtnbb Dec 2016 #28

Absolutely wrong....hold stocks.. hold until you see a market trend... Nancyswidower Dec 2016 #29

Under Obama, the only stimulus was from the Fed. Yavin4 Dec 2016 #32

That's horsecrap..."Under Obama, the only stimulus was from the Fed." Nancyswidower Dec 2016 #33

Investors are pricing-in lower corporate taxes & less regulations. dawg Dec 2016 #13

huge infrasturcture program? "the wall"? (sarcasm) still_one Dec 2016 #22

This edhopper Dec 2016 #27

It is inflating the next bubble that will crash the doc03 Dec 2016 #16

Not really....shouldn't you link something that supports your claim? Nancyswidower Dec 2016 #31

Just going by what I witnessed in the past with Reaganomics. I heard this morning doc03 Dec 2016 #37

Because they know they're free to do anything they want, anything at all . . . hatrack Dec 2016 #23

market pamdb Dec 2016 #26

Really? vi5 Dec 2016 #30

I smell a massive pump-and-dump bubble meow2u3 Dec 2016 #34

Must not be any actual investors here, just a bunch of impoverished Democrats? shanen Dec 2016 #35

Big money moving out if bonds ... Watch 10yr t interest rates... uponit7771 Dec 2016 #36

Instead of draining the swamp, trump is putting the swamp dwellers (Wall Street) in charge gollygee Dec 2016 #38