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Hortensis

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29. I'm pro abortion, Maru, for any reason, right up to

Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:39 AM

Dec 2016

a point where two people are involved. That point occurs several months before completion of gestation. How to determine is a huge question, but to me it would be about brain development. After that point for no reason except to protect the mother's physical health, to abort a fetus that can never become a person, or to protect a child who cannot live much beyond birth from suffering.

And, yes, in an imperfect world, no point is truly definitive (except for those who'd set it at conception), but if we must err, let's do it on the earlier side to protect the rights of those who cannot speak or vote for their own right to live.

Sorry if you don't like that. But whether someone regards pregnancy as a beautiful miracle or a parasite turning its host into a slave, at some point this becomes all about two people, both endowed with inalienable rights to life, etc.

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Emboldened by Trump win, Ohio passes "heartbeat" law banning abortion at 6 WEEKS. [View all] Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 OP

Thank you for this, Maru.. Cha Dec 2016 #1

Thank you Cha. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #16

Ohio is sort of the anus of the USA these days isn't it? The_Casual_Observer Dec 2016 #2

LOL... Zing Zing Zingbah Dec 2016 #12

That's unconstitutional. shraby Dec 2016 #3

you think these people care about the constitution? Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #4

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #6

Exactly. Trump's specific goal is to overturn Roe vs Wade. This stuff is just the start. anneboleyn Dec 2016 #10

Yes it is gratuitous Dec 2016 #22

Yes, clearly not under Roe v. Wade treestar Dec 2016 #27

K&R Solly Mack Dec 2016 #5

Good, good.... Aviation Pro Dec 2016 #7

Hey, Ladies! Meet the man who wants to be up all in your business! Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #8

"Girls" get upset when you get loaded and Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #9

He sounds like a real piece of work. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #20

This should make the Trump apologists happy BainsBane Dec 2016 #11

Because buzzwords are cool and trendy! Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #14

And so it begins - the dismantling of progress made. MineralMan Dec 2016 #13

We did miss our chance...to really Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #15

I don't think this would be the worst thing in the world. Hortensis Dec 2016 #17

You forgot your sarcasm tag. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #18

Not sarcasm. And we're still a ways from losing Hortensis Dec 2016 #19

So you would force birth, in rape, in incest, in suicidal women? Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #23

I'm pro abortion, Maru, for any reason, right up to Hortensis Dec 2016 #29

You are pro forced birth. You said it yourself quite clearly. You don't trust women. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #30

What the fuck is going on? ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #34

At six weeks, the "person" you are talking about is the size of a lentil. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #36

Good grief. This reaction reminds me of what we're seeing Hortensis Dec 2016 #37

Post #17. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #38

WTF? What two people? etherealtruth Dec 2016 #40

Oh, barf. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #21

For years I have been saying that once a woman finds out she's pregnant, even two weeks pregnant, phylny Dec 2016 #24

You can't get an abortion before a heartbeat is detected, IIRC. ecstatic Dec 2016 #25

Empathy for the pockets of Ohio progressives ... Auggie Dec 2016 #26

Yes! I've already plastered this all over FB and my email list. Guilded Lilly Dec 2016 #28

yet even in this thread we are told this wouldn't be "the worst thing in the world" Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #31

Just do what you can do and stay focused on the Guilded Lilly Dec 2016 #32

I will be happy to surrender control of my body Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #35

What you said. ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #33

Maybe Kasich won't sign it. It will cost the state a fortune in court challenges. Vinca Dec 2016 #39