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282. Facts ARE facts, there is no disputing 'facts'.

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:32 PM

Jun 2012

A 'fact' cannot be 'interpreted in more than one way' to turn it into a lie, that is why it is called a 'fact' not 'an opinion'.

When a lie is told, such as 'Assange is wanted on charges of rape', that is not just a wrong opinion, it is a lie.

The fact, which cannot be interpreted in more than way' is that Assange is NOT wanted on rape charges because there are no such charges and never were. That is a fact.

How do you interpret that fact in 'more than way'?

If you are Fox, there is only one way to do that, you continue to lie about it.

And who would want to 'interpret the fact in more than one way'? War criminals and their supporters. Because Assange revealed evidence of their crimes.

Ethical people otoh, regardless of their political views or dislikes want the facts and will not, once they have them, attempt to 'interpret them in more than one way'. That is how we recognize ethical people.

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Assange has requested political asylum & is in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London [View all] Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 OP

Hope he gets it. Octafish Jun 2012 #1

Actually, Sweden wants him, too. randome Jun 2012 #16

If those allegations were that pesky, why hasn't he been charged? EFerrari Jun 2012 #19

If he hasn't been charged, why is he afraid to go to Sweden? randome Jun 2012 #23

There is no reason for him to go to Sweden. He has not been charged with anything at all. EFerrari Jun 2012 #29

What 'secret trial'? I want him to answer the rape allegations. randome Jun 2012 #65

Bullshit. And if Sweden ever files charges, the trial is held in secret. EFerrari Jun 2012 #76

innocent til proven guilty, that's why. It's a universal value. librechik Jun 2012 #81

It is a well known fact that after two years, there are NO charges, and btw, there were never sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #86

Rove? What the hell does he have to do with this? randome Jun 2012 #99

And You Might Want To Read This: WillyT Jun 2012 #107

There are no rape allegations. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #117

As I said, you appear to have zero knowledge of this story. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #118

No. That's not really what you want. You're more transparent than you apparently think you are. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #189

Have you no shame? PufPuf23 Jun 2012 #209

None at all. randome Jun 2012 #210

Did you think anyone thought you did? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #251

Nice passive-aggressiveness on your part. randome Jun 2012 #258

I thought it was pretty straight forward. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #265

I will never state that only I know the facts. randome Jun 2012 #267

Facts ARE facts, there is no disputing 'facts'. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #282

Technically, you are correct that 'charges' have not been filed. randome Jun 2012 #283

We are arguing about the very reason for the existence of Wikileaks, and now other sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #284

I don't think the U.S. government has anything to do with the Swedish filings. randome Jun 2012 #286

The only conspiracy is the one that claims 'he is fighting charges'. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #292

The Prime Minister has been rebuked by Senate: backs highest level of consular support for Assange Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #301

personally, I find the guy a sickening narcissist, but those charges are ridiculous. cali Jun 2012 #32

I don't need to be in love with him to recognize a multi-state lynching party. EFerrari Jun 2012 #41

I wish people would stop misusing the word lynching, and as I said, I think the rape charges are cali Jun 2012 #48

There are no rape charges. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #52

alright, let me put it this way, I think the two women accusing him of rape are full of shit. cali Jun 2012 #55

It's disgusting that they are using a rape charge EFerrari Jun 2012 #104

There are no charges. He has never been charged, nor were there allegations of 'rape'. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #91

Now Karl Rove is running Sweden? former9thward Jun 2012 #174

Rove was the Prime Minister's political consultant. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #176

So that means he is running Sweden's justice department? former9thward Jun 2012 #181

??? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #178

Yes. former9thward Jun 2012 #182

Are you saying Rove doesn't have buddies in Sweden? That is what I am understanding from sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #197

I have no idea if Rove "has buddies" in Swedish government. former9thward Jun 2012 #260

The Swedish people are not laughing, since unlike you, they are aware that their PM sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #263

Since you are speaking for "The Swedish people" former9thward Jun 2012 #270

Rove has buddies in high places in the Swedish Government. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #281

Extradition usually is preceded by actual charges. Savannahmann Jun 2012 #36

Eric Holder said out loud on camera that he believed there were tools to handle Assange. EFerrari Jun 2012 #43

Can I get an AMEN. Gregorian Jun 2012 #151

Bingo! nt PufPuf23 Jun 2012 #208

Why won't Sweden interview him in London? randome Jun 2012 #78

My understanding is that neither woman is even calling it rape. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #96

No, it's persecution at the behest of the Obama DoJ. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #101

exactly nt inna Jun 2012 #250

Do you have a link to your "understanding"? If it's true that the women in question..... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #114

Actually, Wikileaks supporters have repeatedly succeeded in making news orgs Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #123

It prolly came from this book: shcrane71 Jun 2012 #168

That is a false report. He has never been charged, nor have the women even alleged rape. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #200

Being an asshole and an idiot is not a crime. roody Jun 2012 #80

No. It is not. randome Jun 2012 #90

No, the questions on everyone's mind should be... ljm2002 Jun 2012 #121

I don't know the answers to your question about a phone interview. randome Jun 2012 #139

So now you know? RobertEarl Jun 2012 #154

The question is why are the leaders of the USA and western allies afraid of the truth. PufPuf23 Jun 2012 #212

Good thing - my ex woulda had me tossed in the slammer.... Yurovsky Jun 2012 #196

Because Sweden and the US worked together on rendition. Sweden's tsuki Jun 2012 #111

If he is extradited to Sweden they will send him on to the US TexasProgresive Jun 2012 #22

So he should have diplomatic immunity from now on? randome Jun 2012 #24

What music would that be? EFerrari Jun 2012 #27

At this point, Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 #31

I will never forget Hillary saying Cablegate had revealed no wrongdoing. EFerrari Jun 2012 #37

I don't trust anyone. randome Jun 2012 #39

Um, Assange has made himself available to the Swedish government EFerrari Jun 2012 #49

I don't see why not. The US wrote the Pinochet law that said tsuki Jun 2012 #113

So what - he'd get a trial treestar Jun 2012 #164

What crimes do you think he's been charged with? The correct answer is ZERO. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #167

There is some basis for extradition treestar Jun 2012 #173

What won't you apologize for? The revelation of systematic PufPuf23 Jun 2012 #217

WTF has that got to do with the fact that Julian is not subject to persecution in Sweden treestar Jun 2012 #254

Once you familiarize yourself with the facts of the case reorg Jun 2012 #274

So instead of getting the U.K. to extradite him, Karl Rove -at the behest of Obama- randome Jun 2012 #275

they immediately got what they wanted reorg Jun 2012 #277

Don't jump to conclusions about those who look askance at Assange. randome Jun 2012 #278

Because Assange and Wikileaks have done good reorg Jun 2012 #280

Smears are not persecution treestar Jun 2012 #304

Er, no, he simply has to answer to the swedish law treestar Jun 2012 #303

Please, this is Sweden treestar Jun 2012 #302

It would be much easier to extradite him directly from the UK: under current EU agreements, if struggle4progress Jun 2012 #187

Actually, there is a bilateral agreement between the U.S. and Sweden Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #242

Swedish prosecuting authority website says that if Sweden extradites someone from another struggle4progress Jun 2012 #245

You are right to the extent that Sweden could exercise "conditional release" with Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #247

The allegations made up by the CIA contract agent lady? Octafish Jun 2012 #46

Why are there no charges from Sweden? Karl Rove's friend over there couldn't come up with sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #84

There are allegations, apparently, not charges. randome Jun 2012 #95

Well, I could help with knowing about Sweden's judicial process which would have helped sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #106

The information used is from the tsuki Jun 2012 #115

Well, you said it. I wouldn't have said it, but the 'facts' you have been spreading here sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #120

Randome is the one spreading 'facts'. I just have heard clips where the Aluminatti tsuki Jun 2012 #158

Oops, sorry, sent that post to you by mistake. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #252

I figured as much. tsuki Jun 2012 #253

You and a lot of other people! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #266

The same reason anyone 'jumps into' a thread. randome Jun 2012 #128

The women did not charge rape. I have already provided their own words, refuting that sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #132

Right. And they went to the authorities in the first place because... randome Jun 2012 #135

Actually Aiden made that statement a day or two after they went to the police... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #143

Yes, you are correct. The reason for that was a broken condom. Nothing to do with rape. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #179

I really wish you would do your own work as I don't have time to re-write this sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #147

Notice you don't get down to "Creative Speculation" much after the big move... apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #58

So what do you know about Assange? Octafish Jun 2012 #108

So what do you know about the new TOS in "Creative Speculation"? apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #119

You've nothing to say on Assange, but plenty about your victimization. Octafish Jun 2012 #122

First class projection! Nice....that new TOS is a real downer, eh? apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #124

Here's a video on why Assange should matter to all who care about freedom of the press... Octafish Jun 2012 #125

I'll take a look at your vid as long as it doesn't lapse into anti-semitism apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #126

That's a lie, apocalypsehow. Kevin Zeese is no anti-Semite. Octafish Jun 2012 #129

It's not a "lie," Octa, since (1) I didn't say "Kevin Zeese" was anything, and (2) you apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #130

Show me where I posted something containing ''anti-semitic implications,'' apocalypsehow. Octafish Jun 2012 #131

Repeatedly on DU2, especially in the 911 forum. apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #134

So you DON'T have a link to show what you allege, apocalypsehow. Octafish Jun 2012 #140

As for the "PS" in this post, for anyone interested enough to bother with it, apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #136

So, what have you to say about Assange, apocalypsehow? Octafish Jun 2012 #138

Sure. I think he embarrassed the U.S. government, and exposed some scummy business apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #141

There are no charges. Assange has never been charged with any crime. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #146

Great! Then it should be no problem for him to return to Sweden and set them straight. apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #148

I believe that there is a problem and so does Assange. He has repeatedly offered to Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #153

Okay, great! We have a difference of opinion: I think he should return to Sweden, and apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #155

There is no way in hell that I would surrender myself to a country that is more Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #159

That's nice. We'll just have to agree to disagree about this point, as I politely apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #175

You DO know he is not Swedish? vanlassie Jun 2012 #240

You DO know that if you travel to a foreign country, then are accused of committing an offense apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #243

The terrible treatment of Bradly Manning vanlassie Jun 2012 #248

It is not relevant, no matter how much you wish it were. What is relevant is that apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #249

What accusations? That a condom broke? And for that INTERPOL sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #290

Reading this exchange between you and Octafish, it looks to me like you are sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #184

As I didn't post the OP or write the article I'm under no obligation to "answer" anything about it. apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #186

LOL! I think there's some history between these two! randome Jun 2012 #188

Yeah, I miss my 'ole buddy Octafish down in CS. He wisely steers clear of it these apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #192

Got ya! randome Jun 2012 #194

You're going to want to back the fuck away from baseless allegations about Octafish DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #199

As they are far from "baseless," I think not. But thanks for weighing in! apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #216

If Correa grants this, he'll be taking his life in his hands. EFerrari Jun 2012 #2

That's exactly what I was thinking - TBF Jun 2012 #127

I would'nt be surprised if he did. Puglover Jun 2012 #261

This is great news n/t Oilwellian Jun 2012 #3

LOL - just saw your thread malaise Jun 2012 #4

This is really risky for Correa. EFerrari Jun 2012 #5

Because he'll have established a precedent treestar Jun 2012 #163

You do know that a conviction of espionage in the U.S. does carry the possibility of the death Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #166

a "conviction" treestar Jun 2012 #170

Yes. I know that there would be a trial first. A trial that could result in a death sentence... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #172

Facing false charges of 'espionage' because you are a journalist most certainly is persecution. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #185

NO, it is not treestar Jun 2012 #255

There are no charges. And there are no accusations of rape. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #262

How does it make him look hysterical? There have been reports that the US has sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #206

What does the Constitution have to do with conspiring with a member of the armed forces... randome Jun 2012 #207

Unbelievable. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #213

I don't see Wikileaks as a news organization. randome Jun 2012 #218

Wikileaks Receives Prestigious Australian Award for Most Outstanding Contribution to Journalism' sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #231

Again, that is not "persecution" treestar Jun 2012 #257

Correa likes Assange. Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 #6

Do you remember when the national police turned on him EFerrari Jun 2012 #7

Yep! Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 #9

This is fascinating on several levels malaise Jun 2012 #28

This is the Big Game, malaise, right in front of our faces. EFerrari Jun 2012 #30

Yes indeed malaise Jun 2012 #109

Assange has many friends among world leaders. The new President of Tunisia also gave sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #112

Might want to double check your facts. hack89 Jun 2012 #11

Indeed malaise Jun 2012 #33

Yes, but the embassy is in London and the courts in the UK are who wants to extradite him, GarroHorus Jun 2012 #75

Yeah, those fascist Swedes and their fascist rape and sexual assault laws Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #8

Interesting enough, he has not been charged with any crime but has been Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #10

Kinda weird losing an extradition hearings if there's no crime suspected Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #13

Some government suspects you of something, they say. EFerrari Jun 2012 #15

actually he has already been called a terrorist by this administration xiamiam Jun 2012 #269

I suspect you keyed my car. You'll need to come to CA to interview. No, I haven't filed charges. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #201

Good point. But why did the UK side with Sweden? Are they part of a conspiracy, too? randome Jun 2012 #203

Damned if I know. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #211

I don't understand that part, either. randome Jun 2012 #224

He's white, a citizen of a friendly country, not a Muslim, and in the public eye. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #226

Yes, it is fascist to imprison someone without charge for years EFerrari Jun 2012 #12

rendtion? Where do you even come up with that? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #14

That would be this Sweden: EFerrari Jun 2012 #17

And yet Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #35

If Sweden has charges to file, they should file them EFerrari Jun 2012 #45

Apparently Sweden filed something, hence the public extradition hearing with opposing counsel. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #51

Again, there has been no charges leveled against Assange... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #53

Not every country operates according to our rules. randome Jun 2012 #57

He has made himself available to testify from London. EFerrari Jun 2012 #61

So why the hearing all the way up to the UK supreme court? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #59

They are when the United States wants them to. EFerrari Jun 2012 #62

Our government is embarrassed every single day! randome Jun 2012 #69

Wrong but, since that has been pointed out to you repeatedly to no effect EFerrari Jun 2012 #72

It must be nice to retreat to paranoid fantasies everytime reality intrudes Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #79

Um, you seem to be the one toting paranoid fantasies EFerrari Jun 2012 #87

Why don't you tell me why this farce when he has not been charged with any crime. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #88

Unless you want to say multiple accusers suddenly fabricated a spree of rapes Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #93

There can be no fair hearing until there are charges. ASSANGE isn't holding that up. EFerrari Jun 2012 #98

Nobody threw him over the fence of the embassay. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #137

Assange cannot prevent Sweden from filing charges against him. And they have not. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #177

Nobody can smear Assange except Assange? Christ, I hope your vocation doesn't count on logic DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #205

a broken condom does not translate to a spree of rapes..get your facts straight ..nt xiamiam Jun 2012 #271

So it's "he said/she said". Glad that's been cleared up. randome Jun 2012 #273

not at all reorg Jun 2012 #279

What's a little rape and pillage as long as you have solid anti-American street cred? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #56

I don't get it Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #73

Notice who the "defenders" are. They're the ones who repeatedly tell Democrats how we..... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #85

Maybe you should have listened to the women themselves, if you're so concerned sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #97

Why don't you link to something that tells us what the women have said? randome Jun 2012 #100

Lol, how did I know you would find that article. The women were not smeared btw, unless sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #110

Looking more carefully at the details, I think there IS room for doubt about either side. randome Jun 2012 #133

I don't care whether he is an ass or not. I care that an editor and publisher of an award sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #144

Not buying it. randome Jun 2012 #145

I am not interested in whether you buy it or not. You have admitted to knowing nothing sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #150

Sorry, NU. randome Jun 2012 #102

He was never charged nor was rape even alleged. Where do you get your information? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #94

Prime Minister Reinfeldt Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 #26

Sweden was a partner in rendition. They knowingly tsuki Jun 2012 #157

There are no charges, nor even any allegations of rape. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #193

Good for him. And, bravo for exposing the corruption. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #18

Assange handed many, many gifts to leftist leaders in Latin America. EFerrari Jun 2012 #21

Link to Assange interview with Correa... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #20

Thanks malaise Jun 2012 #34

Embassy statement: EFerrari Jun 2012 #25

Good for him. Ecuador should accept him. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #38

Based on what? treestar Jun 2012 #40

There are no charges. He has never been charged with anything. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #42

Whatever, they got an order of extradition treestar Jun 2012 #63

And you know that is not the issue. Sweden is not the issue. Everyone in the world knows sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #195

THat is a meaningless post treestar Jun 2012 #256

Since the revelation in the Anonymous leaks that the US has indicted Assange in a secret sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #264

The Swedish maneuverings only delay his possible extradition by the U.K. randome Jun 2012 #268

Nice! Hope Ecuador grants him asylum. backscatter712 Jun 2012 #44

Sure. It's so 'obvious'. randome Jun 2012 #47

Baloney. He has made himself available to the Swedish government from "go". EFerrari Jun 2012 #54

So what was this whole etradition fight going on, then? randome Jun 2012 #60

Then you CHARGE him. Savannahmann Jun 2012 #64

I don't pretend to understand Sweden's judicial process. randome Jun 2012 #67

No. Charges can be answered in court. Not fiiling charges but continuing EFerrari Jun 2012 #70

We call it Charges. Savannahmann Jun 2012 #77

Yes. It does bother me. randome Jun 2012 #83

LOL. This is why we can't have nice things. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #92

You mean those former co-workers who stole from Wikileaks and claimed that they Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #116

I think it's time for a reality check. Savannahmann Jun 2012 #156

You and some other posters have raised some good points. randome Jun 2012 #161

So, you would be willing to put yourself into the hands of one set of state actors Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #162

Probably not. randome Jun 2012 #165

Assange was the public spokesperson for a jounalistic organization... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #169

Agree. randome Jun 2012 #171

Actually, cablegate was only a disaster for anyone who was involved with sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #225

It's such obvious bullshit. EFerrari Jun 2012 #68

Sweden cooperates with the US on rendition, for starts. EFerrari Jun 2012 #66

Because they are part of the conspiracy, man! randome Jun 2012 #71

Trotting out the word "conspiracy" doesn't let you off the hook. Sorry.n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #74

Nor does trotting out paranoid fantasies let a potential serial rapist off the hook. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #82

LOL. Yeah, this guy is so dangerous, no one has filed a charge. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #89

Are you calling his accusers liars? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #142

You seem to have a personal vendetta. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #149

No, you are. They never accused him tsuki Jun 2012 #160

His 'accusers' have stated publicly that there was no rape, no accusations from them. So who sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #239

Well you've been all over this thread, but not producing any facts. So, since you have sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #103

Sara Palin is an insult to stupid people. EFerrari Jun 2012 #105

Sample letter to for the Ecuadorian Embassy Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #50

Thank you! n/t Catherina Jun 2012 #180

That address is bouncing. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #191

Here is the contact link on the embassy website... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #232

Thank you. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #237

I hope warrprayer Jun 2012 #152

He sure is running scared. Innocent people don't usu. do that. Like O.J., when he ran. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #183

He's being stalked by the US government. Of course he's scared. EFerrari Jun 2012 #190

He did a document dump of 250,000 documents without reviewing them. randome Jun 2012 #198

Also incorrect. You're batting 1000 today.n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #202

Incorrect in what way? randome Jun 2012 #204

Facts and myths in the WikiLeaks/Guardian saga EFerrari Jun 2012 #220

Interesting reading. Thanks for the link. randome Jun 2012 #227

He's fleeing sexual assault charges. Nothing to do with his business. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #215

Yeah, I wish the topic would stay there. randome Jun 2012 #219

Incorrect. There are no charges as you would have to have seen EFerrari Jun 2012 #221

No, he is not. He has never been charged or even accused of rape. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #234

He's avoiding Sweden and the U.K. Charges of sexual assault. His fleeing is evid. of guilt. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #214

I suspect you keyed my car. You'll need to come to CA to interview. No, I haven't filed charges. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #222

Sexual assault is not keying a car. But if someone accused me of molestation in CA... Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #228

I don't see a flight number. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #230

He didn't flee. He stayed in Sweden for a month to clear it up. EFerrari Jun 2012 #236

But what if no one accused of molestation but a government demanded you sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #241

That's not the case. The women have a lawyer who has made a statement for them about Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #285

Your link does not work. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #287

There is a period at the end. randome Jun 2012 #288

Borgstr�m has been reported to the Bar Association for his statements. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #293

That's interesting info. randome Jun 2012 #295

What is foremost in the minds of people everywhere, except for a few with sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #289

Where's your link? Did you read the statement by their lawyer? Could be that one of the women Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #291

Yes, nearly two years after the fact, and unfortunately for the lawyer, the evidence in their sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #294

just so you don't have to rummage through current news pages reorg Jun 2012 #296

None of us should be arrogant enough to argue the faults of a sexual encounter. randome Jun 2012 #297

Nobody should be arrogant enough to dismiss the facts of the case reorg Jun 2012 #298

I'm sure the U.S. government WOULD like to see him prosecuted. randome Jun 2012 #299

So, you seem to be wondering why the US government hasn't taken any measures reorg Jun 2012 #300

Nope. There are no charges against him at this time. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #223

There are no legal charges by authorities, but charges have been made by people... Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #229

No allegations of rape have ever been made by the women in this case. In fact sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #233

Assange stayed in Sweden for a month, iirc, after this flap arose to handle it. EFerrari Jun 2012 #235

Yeah. It's too bad we don't have those fancy things like they had on Star Trek called Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #238

You may as well be arguing with agents in The Matrix TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #244

Or the M-5 "This unit must survive." EFerrari Jun 2012 #246

Damn sure warrprayer Jun 2012 #259

No kidding. Puglover Jun 2012 #276

guilt of what?..a broken condom?..do you even bother to inform yourself?..nt xiamiam Jun 2012 #272