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DetlefK

(16,670 posts) Mon Dec 12, 2016, 06:11 AM Dec 2016

Russia Today downplaying the hacking-accusations by quoting Bolton and Trump (and nobody else) [View all]

https://www.rt.com/usa/369973-dnc-hack-false-flag/

Bolton: The hacks were obviously a false-flag operation by the Obama-administration because russian hackers are too smart to leave fingerprints.
(I have seen this reasoning before: The evidence that this Russian was killed in London by russian agents isn't credible because russian agents are too good to leave traces.)

The article is suspiciously devoid of context as to what the allegations actually are and what evidence the conclusion is based on.

https://www.rt.com/usa/369944-russia-hackers-trump-reaction/

Quoting what Trump said in Fox News interview, that the hacking-allegations are just an excuse to discredit his tremendous victory. (Also, no fact-checking of the nonsense Trump blathered about how hacking works or how his huge victory came about despite losing the popular vote by a landslide.)

This article is also suspiciously devoid of context as to what the allegations actually are and what evidence the conclusion is based on.

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It's the usual modus operandi of Russia Today: Leave out anything that might endanger the foregone conclusion of your article. Create a strawman-argument by presenting half the facts as if they were all the facts, and then ridicule that strawman.

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Russia Today downplaying the hacking-accusations by quoting Bolton and Trump (and nobody else) [View all] DetlefK Dec 2016 OP

WE don't believe MFM008 Dec 2016 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #5

Nobody polled DU about that interference DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #6

what BS . it was Russia , not the US which interfered in Ukraine . and KGB and others have a history JI7 Dec 2016 #7

Both Russia and the USA were involved in the Ukrainian clusterfuck. GliderGuider Dec 2016 #8

We on the left opposed many of those interventions/interferences. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #13

Now "everybody" gets screwed. GliderGuider Dec 2016 #14

Fair warning. You do not want a serious discussion about those things on the list. DetlefK Dec 2016 #9

Your interlocutor is likely a Russian/Putin bot or an Alt-Righty attacking Democrats from the left. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #15

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #16

Matthew 7:16/nt DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #17

Out of curiosity, what is the source of your chart? Tanuki Dec 2016 #18

I assure you that it won't be disclosed by that poster. MineralMan Dec 2016 #27

That chart appears to have it's origins with William Blum. Link: MineralMan Dec 2016 #28

Thanks, MM . Never heard of Blum, but Google tells me he wrote that Tanuki Dec 2016 #37

This makes it all ok to you? ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #12

That is a lot of cases and could involve a lot of treestar Dec 2016 #20

what's your point? What's this got to do with Russian interference in our election? wordpix Dec 2016 #21

so you support the russians hacking our electoral process.....cool spanone Dec 2016 #23

If you're defending RT on DU, MineralMan Dec 2016 #24

How about getting leftynyc Dec 2016 #25

The source for that information is William Blum MineralMan Dec 2016 #29

Also see #37 above. eom Tanuki Dec 2016 #38

So you're defending Russia? Really uponit7771 Dec 2016 #33

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #36

Trump's Chumps will lap it up. eShirl Dec 2016 #3

Yeah, like the Americans who don't want Russia taking over Cha Dec 2016 #4

Trumpers definitely read this. DetlefK Dec 2016 #10

That's like some inquisition style thinking there ck4829 Dec 2016 #11

same playbook as BushCo's "proof" of WMD in Iraq wordpix Dec 2016 #19

RT is not a legitimate news source. MineralMan Dec 2016 #22

To quote the late, great SidDithers/Skinner..... Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #26

Russia downplaying their involvement by citing their own paid hacks. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #30

RT is portraying political hacks, conspiracy-theorists and random bloggers as mainstream-sources. DetlefK Dec 2016 #34

I was reading something on fb where people were shocked their fb news was fake AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #35

Yeap, the fact that they're responding to this means its hit a spot... that's a good thing uponit7771 Dec 2016 #31

Bolton and Trump - blame the victim. forgotmylogin Dec 2016 #32