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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
14. Now "everybody" gets screwed.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 09:55 AM
Dec 2016

Left, right, Christian, Muslim, Atheist, French, Indonesian or Hottentot. We're looking at another dimension of the planetary end-game here. Here's what a friend of mine said about the fix the world is in:

I totally get how Trump supporters wanted somebody to fix™ the myriad problems™ now facing the dominant human global culture. It's how most of the people in this culture have been taught to think.

The thing is, Mr. Trump will be unable to fix those problems.

The even deeper thing is, none of the other candidates would have been able to fix those problems either. None of them.

Runaway climate chaos? The growth imperative? Debt-based financial systems? The psychological workings of the human being? Resource™ depletions? Generations of accumulated trauma and epigenetic change? The unfolding 6th Mass Extinction Event? Overpopulation?

Do you think these things can be addressed through the institutions which created them, in the midst of cultural collapse, in the short amount of time left to address them, with margins for money and energy and resources now razor thin, by people whose minds were formed inside of family, cultural, and paradigmatic beliefs and assumptions which trip them up at every turn?

Nothing from my years of study and research has indicated that the members of this culture can "solve" their way out of this, at least not in this physical realm. We're up against fundamental laws of physics, chemistry, biology, and psychology. I think it's above our pay grade, as evidenced by the seeming fact™ that the chief cause of our present panoply of problems™ is our own previous solutions™.


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WE don't believe MFM008 Dec 2016 #1
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This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #5
Nobody polled DU about that interference DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #6
what BS . it was Russia , not the US which interfered in Ukraine . and KGB and others have a history JI7 Dec 2016 #7
Both Russia and the USA were involved in the Ukrainian clusterfuck. GliderGuider Dec 2016 #8
We on the left opposed many of those interventions/interferences. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #13
Now "everybody" gets screwed. GliderGuider Dec 2016 #14
Fair warning. You do not want a serious discussion about those things on the list. DetlefK Dec 2016 #9
Your interlocutor is likely a Russian/Putin bot or an Alt-Righty attacking Democrats from the left. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #16
Matthew 7:16/nt DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #17
Out of curiosity, what is the source of your chart? Tanuki Dec 2016 #18
I assure you that it won't be disclosed by that poster. MineralMan Dec 2016 #27
That chart appears to have it's origins with William Blum. Link: MineralMan Dec 2016 #28
Thanks, MM . Never heard of Blum, but Google tells me he wrote that Tanuki Dec 2016 #37
This makes it all ok to you? ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #12
That is a lot of cases and could involve a lot of treestar Dec 2016 #20
what's your point? What's this got to do with Russian interference in our election? wordpix Dec 2016 #21
so you support the russians hacking our electoral process.....cool spanone Dec 2016 #23
If you're defending RT on DU, MineralMan Dec 2016 #24
How about getting leftynyc Dec 2016 #25
The source for that information is William Blum MineralMan Dec 2016 #29
Also see #37 above. eom Tanuki Dec 2016 #38
So you're defending Russia? Really uponit7771 Dec 2016 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #36
Trump's Chumps will lap it up. eShirl Dec 2016 #3
Yeah, like the Americans who don't want Russia taking over Cha Dec 2016 #4
Trumpers definitely read this. DetlefK Dec 2016 #10
That's like some inquisition style thinking there ck4829 Dec 2016 #11
same playbook as BushCo's "proof" of WMD in Iraq wordpix Dec 2016 #19
RT is not a legitimate news source. MineralMan Dec 2016 #22
To quote the late, great SidDithers/Skinner..... Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #26
Russia downplaying their involvement by citing their own paid hacks. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #30
RT is portraying political hacks, conspiracy-theorists and random bloggers as mainstream-sources. DetlefK Dec 2016 #34
I was reading something on fb where people were shocked their fb news was fake AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #35
Yeap, the fact that they're responding to this means its hit a spot... that's a good thing uponit7771 Dec 2016 #31
Bolton and Trump - blame the victim. forgotmylogin Dec 2016 #32
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