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In reply to the discussion: Russia Today downplaying the hacking-accusations by quoting Bolton and Trump (and nobody else) [View all]GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)14. Now "everybody" gets screwed.
Left, right, Christian, Muslim, Atheist, French, Indonesian or Hottentot. We're looking at another dimension of the planetary end-game here. Here's what a friend of mine said about the fix the world is in:
I totally get how Trump supporters wanted somebody to fix the myriad problems now facing the dominant human global culture. It's how most of the people in this culture have been taught to think.
The thing is, Mr. Trump will be unable to fix those problems.
The even deeper thing is, none of the other candidates would have been able to fix those problems either. None of them.
Runaway climate chaos? The growth imperative? Debt-based financial systems? The psychological workings of the human being? Resource depletions? Generations of accumulated trauma and epigenetic change? The unfolding 6th Mass Extinction Event? Overpopulation?
Do you think these things can be addressed through the institutions which created them, in the midst of cultural collapse, in the short amount of time left to address them, with margins for money and energy and resources now razor thin, by people whose minds were formed inside of family, cultural, and paradigmatic beliefs and assumptions which trip them up at every turn?
Nothing from my years of study and research has indicated that the members of this culture can "solve" their way out of this, at least not in this physical realm. We're up against fundamental laws of physics, chemistry, biology, and psychology. I think it's above our pay grade, as evidenced by the seeming fact that the chief cause of our present panoply of problems is our own previous solutions.
The thing is, Mr. Trump will be unable to fix those problems.
The even deeper thing is, none of the other candidates would have been able to fix those problems either. None of them.
Runaway climate chaos? The growth imperative? Debt-based financial systems? The psychological workings of the human being? Resource depletions? Generations of accumulated trauma and epigenetic change? The unfolding 6th Mass Extinction Event? Overpopulation?
Do you think these things can be addressed through the institutions which created them, in the midst of cultural collapse, in the short amount of time left to address them, with margins for money and energy and resources now razor thin, by people whose minds were formed inside of family, cultural, and paradigmatic beliefs and assumptions which trip them up at every turn?
Nothing from my years of study and research has indicated that the members of this culture can "solve" their way out of this, at least not in this physical realm. We're up against fundamental laws of physics, chemistry, biology, and psychology. I think it's above our pay grade, as evidenced by the seeming fact that the chief cause of our present panoply of problems is our own previous solutions.
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Russia Today downplaying the hacking-accusations by quoting Bolton and Trump (and nobody else) [View all]
DetlefK
Dec 2016
OP
what BS . it was Russia , not the US which interfered in Ukraine . and KGB and others have a history
JI7
Dec 2016
#7
Fair warning. You do not want a serious discussion about those things on the list.
DetlefK
Dec 2016
#9
Your interlocutor is likely a Russian/Putin bot or an Alt-Righty attacking Democrats from the left.
DemocratSinceBirth
Dec 2016
#15
what's your point? What's this got to do with Russian interference in our election?
wordpix
Dec 2016
#21
RT is portraying political hacks, conspiracy-theorists and random bloggers as mainstream-sources.
DetlefK
Dec 2016
#34
I was reading something on fb where people were shocked their fb news was fake
AgadorSparticus
Dec 2016
#35
Yeap, the fact that they're responding to this means its hit a spot... that's a good thing
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#31