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HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 02:59 PM Dec 2016

What cures the economic ills of "Flyover Country"/Middle/Rural America? [View all]

Pundits America-wide saw this election as a message that working/rural America has it perpetually awful in life and put their seemingly only chance at opportunity in an "outsider CEO" to be their savior (I'll wait for you to be finished doubled over laughing, but that's one of the narratives being tossed about). The idea was that Trump "had the stronger economic message".

. . . . . . I just read that as he straight up bullshitted his way to the voter's hearts in this area. Giving companies free money in the form of corporate tax cuts will inspire them to lay workers off by the metric ton.

He was never going to "bring jobs back". No one's going to bring jobs back. Corporate greed is a Pandora's box that ain't closing.


Search me how your precious Capitalism survives with no GMI, a chopped social safety net, the entrance fee to higher education being that of a mortgage and too few jobs for the millions of people that need them, but I'm sure the CEO Cabinet will figure it out

You don't really want to ask the people that live in these areas to "move"; that requires money and a job waiting for you, one that isn't always a guaranteed permanent. I'm just not understanding what these people are expecting to happen. I don't see how WE solve this. I don't really have any answers on how they're supposed to be gainfully employed.

The vague buzzwords thrown around by corporate America when asked what America's solution is to ward off an almost-certain bleak economic future . . . "innovation", "education", "information", "New Industries", "high tech businesses" . . . . would those, er, "solutions" ever happen in North Dakota? Iowa? Kansas? Ohio's counties that Hillary didn't win (all but seven)? Rural Pennsylvania?

The thing is, can permanently un/under-employed people "SUPERSIZE THEIR SKILL SET HAW HAW HAW" when they have no income to contribute for training? How does capitalism continue when you have millions of people who y'all won't hire and won't give them a substantial social safety net to even survive? This is expecting an individual solution to a structural problem.

I have YET, YET to hear a coherent and planned answer from a conservative as to how these problems get solved.

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Why assume that the GOP wants to solve a problem that GOP policies created? guillaumeb Dec 2016 #1
Why assume that the GOP wants to solve a problem that they profit from? Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #25
An excellent addition. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #32
The 1% learned their lesson very well in the 60's. Girard442 Dec 2016 #26
Exactly. Else You Are Mad Dec 2016 #28
As Sam Kinison would say you doc03 Dec 2016 #2
Except they have no money to move to a more expensive place where they have no job waiting for them. LonePirate Dec 2016 #6
Their children that manage to go doc03 Dec 2016 #10
Other than Universal Income, the Left (Us) don't have much of a plan either... JCMach1 Dec 2016 #3
With a Teabagger Government at the helm? HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #9
the good news is that the Right is even more clueless about this... still selling trickle down JCMach1 Dec 2016 #22
People are moving greymattermom Dec 2016 #4
Green Jobs Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #5
Parts of Arizona can help in that regard too. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #11
Actual farms and wind farms can coexist Bettie Dec 2016 #24
Trade reform leading to decent jobs or it won't be pretty...there will literally Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #7
I work 10 hours a day Horse with no Name Dec 2016 #8
Well here's what I think. hollowdweller Dec 2016 #12
This reminds me of my aunt's city in upper Maine. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #16
There isn't much to cure rural economic ills. There's no plan for options to Mayberry. haele Dec 2016 #13
You know what? matt819 Dec 2016 #14
I get the sentiment. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #17
Unemployment rate by state Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #15
I keep getting e-mails from LinkedIn matt819 Dec 2016 #18
I think the answer is to make "bad jobs" good. Willie Pep Dec 2016 #19
yup. dont know why people act as though factory jobs were inherently good La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #31
Exactly. Willie Pep Dec 2016 #33
They would have to be willing to move to different jobs bravenak Dec 2016 #20
Move is the key term... jobwise and geographically... the jobs are not returning to rural America JCMach1 Dec 2016 #23
I have been giving this some thought. KamaAina Dec 2016 #21
there is no "cure" coming, but there will be plenty of scapegoating 0rganism Dec 2016 #27
self-delete raccoon Dec 2016 #29
Buy an Audi/Honda. Dawson Leery Dec 2016 #30
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