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treestar

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14. how could he physically do that?

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 05:00 PM

Dec 2016

I mean, it would take some kind of force, wouldn't it? The national guard? The military could fight illegal orders and in fact I've heard some of them said they would. Given that Hillary had more voters, there isn't enough political will to cave in to such a thing either.

Police forces are all under state and country and muni jurisdiction. States have powers - no POTUS can get around that.

This is why I think the separation of powers is good. It would work. State governors would want to keep their power, even the Republicans. They are not going to hand it over to POTUS. Neither would Congress or the courts.

This is why I think the fears of martial law in the US are overblown.

Remember the things you mentioned above had to be abroad and with the excuse of war.

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Could President Trump use a terrorist attack to declare martial law? [View all] left-of-center2012 Dec 2016 OP

No the Constitution doesn't seem to allow that treestar Dec 2016 #1

Ah, that quaint old document gratuitous Dec 2016 #9

"that quaint old document" left-of-center2012 Dec 2016 #11

how could he physically do that? treestar Dec 2016 #14

Remember this is a guy who bragged he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and get away with it gratuitous Dec 2016 #17

I don't think there is any way to invoke it treestar Dec 2016 #19

Would the troops draw down on their own citizens? I couldn't say gratuitous Dec 2016 #22

Kent State... Google it pbmus Dec 2016 #28

Without a massive troop buildup it is impossible. Trenzalore Dec 2016 #29

The case is Exparte Milligan and is Sam1 Dec 2016 #12

Thanks! treestar Dec 2016 #16

The scarey scenario is Sam1 Dec 2016 #23

I don't think the Constitution allows an agent of a foreign government workinclasszero Dec 2016 #20

Sure Generator Dec 2016 #2

According to some DUers apparently a single report from the CIA is enough to declare martial law. nt PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #3

Trump will just say "some are saying" there might be a terrorist attack and declare martial law. putitinD Dec 2016 #6

in a heart beat...... dawnie51 Dec 2016 #4

He will use a terrorist attack on one of his overseas properties to start a war- rzemanfl Dec 2016 #5

Of course, it will be WhiteTara Dec 2016 #26

No, the most heavily insured. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2016 #34

That doesn't mean they WhiteTara Dec 2016 #36

True enough. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2016 #37

He won't have to. His right wing jackasses voters will be enforcing compliance. jalan48 Dec 2016 #7

That will be the start of the Second Civil War. roamer65 Dec 2016 #24

He probably can the actual provisions are not available to the public. gordianot Dec 2016 #8

Next summer, there will be curfews, and demonstrators in jail, immoderate Dec 2016 #10

Not enough of them are white! Sam1 Dec 2016 #13

Oh, I think that remains to be seen. immoderate Dec 2016 #18

... left-of-center2012 Dec 2016 #15

I don't think he knows the difference between martial law and marital law. duffyduff Dec 2016 #21

LOL!! madinmaryland Dec 2016 #25

Maybe Schumer can tell him that the Senate has a pre-nup MrPurple Dec 2016 #31

He has a lot of marital law experience though. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2016 #35

We need to stop believing laws and the Constitution apply to Republicans. They obviously don't. LonePirate Dec 2016 #27

Doesn't need to be literal martial law for him to greatly decrease civil rights MrPurple Dec 2016 #30

Sure Emilybemily Dec 2016 #32

No, the landmass of the USA is too much of a deterent. unpresidented2016 Dec 2016 #33