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Chan790

(20,176 posts)
32. horseshit.
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 02:30 AM
Jun 2012

It's like that old conservative lie about minimum wage laws. The only thing that drives hiring at any cost to the employer whether high or low is labor demand. If you don't need to hire someone, you aren't going to hire even at $0.40/hr. If you need more labor, you'll hire more labor even at $35/hr because you need the labor...you might raise prices to pay for it, but you'll hire because it's necessary to hire. Only labor demand and not labor costs drives hiring...and there is no correlation. Employers don't hire less because the cost of labor goes up...it's never true.

What is true is that they will use periods of low employment to drive down wages unless prevented from doing so by government. It's why I support unionization, fuck the oligarchs! If they refuse to pay a fair wage, make them suffer and destroy their livelihood until they relent. If they refuse to provide benefits, deprive them of the benefit of your labor and harrass the shit out of any client who would support such tyranny until they relent. If they won't relent, provide them with some further motivation to relent. Make them cry out in their need to capitulate simply to restore even their diminishing share.

Which is to say you're 180' off the mark and backwards from reality. They won't equalize expenses, they'll just pay the minimum that we'll let them get away with. It's time we started demanding the maximum we can.

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Dimon said, "Call my office." Whaddya bet he never answers her call? rfranklin Jun 2012 #1
JP Morgan doesn't own the building. dkf Jun 2012 #2
Yes, but if they had any integrity they would demand that the landlord raise wages... rfranklin Jun 2012 #4
It's a five hour a day job. It's not even full time. dkf Jun 2012 #5
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jun 2012 #7
Conditions are changing quickly - TBF Jun 2012 #8
Nope. Worked 11 hour days for most of my working life. dkf Jun 2012 #11
This explains why you neglected to understand... MrMickeysMom Jun 2012 #12
It's not the corporation. No one else would have said that. dkf Jun 2012 #15
SOMETIMES... MrMickeysMom Jun 2012 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jun 2012 #14
Then we will all be in with fevers. Seriously. dkf Jun 2012 #21
I wonder if you're making the choices you need to in order to have a better life... cyberswede Jun 2012 #46
Going to work with a fever, eh? Allow me to explain why you're doing more harm than good. Zalatix Jun 2012 #20
I'm sure the firm would rather I stay home. dkf Jun 2012 #22
Luckily you didn't have something infectious. Zalatix Jun 2012 #27
lol. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #24
Have a nice day. GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jun 2012 #43
''Trolling trolling trolling keep them trollies trolling trooooolhiiiiide!!!!'' nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2012 #10
Why don't you tell us how many hours a day TBF Jun 2012 #9
8 hours a day is good. dkf Jun 2012 #13
But you realized that this janitor might be working a 2nd job - TBF Jun 2012 #41
But shouldn't it be a primary, full time job? xmas74 Jun 2012 #17
You've got to be kidding me, right? Zalatix Jun 2012 #18
Yep, jobs are plentiful and there's no underemployment problem. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #19
They aren't plentiful and there is a problem which is why she doesn't have a living wage. dkf Jun 2012 #23
"uncontrolled excess labor"? Please elaborate. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #25
Almost anyone is capable of being a cleaner. dkf Jun 2012 #30
paying people more = more economic activity. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #26
Legislating that sort of thing only makes companies pull back more. dkf Jun 2012 #28
baloney. minimum wage is legislated. it has never made companies "pull back more". HiPointDem Jun 2012 #29
Those were the good old days before globalization. dkf Jun 2012 #31
That's what tariffs are for. Chan790 Jun 2012 #33
You just said it...we maximize our share of the labor of our brothers worldwide. dkf Jun 2012 #34
We should be demanding that they pay foreign labor the same wage they would earn here. Chan790 Jun 2012 #37
Then the Chinese are out of jobs and back in poverty. dkf Jun 2012 #38
the minimum wage has gone up several times since "globalization". HiPointDem Jun 2012 #36
So, no minimum wage would be better? 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #45
horseshit. Chan790 Jun 2012 #32
If they are forced to increase wages they will take it out in benefits. dkf Jun 2012 #35
So, you're a supply-sider. 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #44
Most nations with wealth and democracy have pulled it off CreekDog Jun 2012 #39
4 microseconds later .... bongbong Jun 2012 #3
Brave woman! Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #16
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