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Maru Kitteh

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128. About Electors meeting who are thinking of changing votes, should they be briefed?

Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:01 PM

Dec 2016

On the Democratic party, how do you feel about some who say it shouldn't be a continuation of the way you have led the party?

POTUS: Tom Perez is tireless and WICKED smart, able to work across labor, business, working people, he's been very extraordinary. Others who have declared are also friends and fine people, I don't have a vote in this and we'll see how it plays out. I think it HAS to continue as a 50 state effort, in all states at the grassroots level. I am proud of what we did because it was INCLUSIVE. We have to keep casting a broad net, there is more that we share than divides us.

Red/Blue state is a construct that has become more powerful due to

Gerrymandering
Big Money
Splintering of media and people only watching/listening to what they want to hear

People largely want the same things, safety, a decent living, opportunities for their children and DNC must deliver that to all of us.

On electors: I'm not going to wade into that issue as to whether or not they should feel bound to the votes of their states.

Long term on electoral college - it's a vestige from a long ago time and different vision of how our democracy would go.

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Official Obama's last Presser of 2016 thread! Please help record his statements for DUers... [View all] bettyellen Dec 2016 OP

I'm out of the country and can't watch Nwgirl503 Dec 2016 #1

I will try to get the most relevant quotes reported here. Hope others will help w that! bettyellen Dec 2016 #2

Still waiting for the two minute warning.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #3

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A thousand thanks Hekate Dec 2016 #7

Thanks! Was hoping we could pull quotes for those who can't watch on real time too! bettyellen Dec 2016 #8

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The press room is packed to the gills, they say press is spilling out into the hallway bettyellen Dec 2016 #9

it will be archived on c-span TheDormouse Dec 2016 #6

I am watching on CNN sheshe2 Dec 2016 #10

So glad to see you! Who's hosting over there? Am listening to Tur on MSNBC bettyellen Dec 2016 #11

Wolf ... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #12

Cannot stand him! bettyellen Dec 2016 #34

Gah... my stomach is in knots. Start sooon! demmiblue Dec 2016 #13

Review of 8 years Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #14

Thank you Maru! Good to see you. bettyellen Dec 2016 #18

Oh thank you bettyellen, so good to see you :-) nt Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #23

POTUS recapping good progress we've made the last year - bettyellen Dec 2016 #15

We are reminded people are still hungry homeless, laid off, gun violence.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #16

Asking about Taiwan / China issue does he agree w DT in his unorthodox approach... bettyellen Dec 2016 #113

I'm leaving things much better for my successor, but people are still hurting Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #17

He will continue to work to build on the progress mcar Dec 2016 #19

Assad and Russia - blood and atrocities on their hands! Need an impartial review to bettyellen Dec 2016 #20

Russia has blocked UN Security Council, the USA will push them to act bettyellen Dec 2016 #21

"Assad cannot slaughter themselves to legitimacy!!!" bettyellen Dec 2016 #24

Aleppo hardest issue he's faced as Pres mcar Dec 2016 #22

Being an American means remembering how lucky we are and our responsibility to others Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #25

Questions- "are you letting Putin get away w election hack?" bettyellen Dec 2016 #26

Being American means helping others mcar Dec 2016 #27

The facts: uniform intel assements say it was Russians that hacked and we have to do what we can bettyellen Dec 2016 #28

Must be able to distinguish between politics of election and threat to our country posed by Russian Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #29

Told Putin directly in October to"cut it out or there will be serious consequences" ACTIVITY STOPPED Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #30

Yeah, that made ME sit up straight. Said he had the same conversation with the Chinese!! PearliePoo2 Dec 2016 #95

thank you PearliePoo2 :-) nt Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #146

So this election was legitimate according to Obama? SHRED Dec 2016 #31

We told him to stop, it stopped, we cool? NightWatcher Dec 2016 #33

I never expected anything more. cwydro Dec 2016 #44

Agreed, he's never been one to take any controversial stands. Always taking the path of least unitedwethrive Dec 2016 #71

I don't think that's what he said Hekate Dec 2016 #38

He's calling out press pretending to be surprised the leaks had an effect when they did all the bettyellen Dec 2016 #32

They should be flayed Hekate Dec 2016 #35

He is really giving it to the press mcar Dec 2016 #37

Yes. You could hear a pin drop in that room. Complicit af. bettyellen Dec 2016 #52

Yup! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #81

President Obama was talking about that Cha Dec 2016 #169

Thank you Cha! bettyellen Dec 2016 #171

You media obsessed on every little tidbit including a Risotto recipie instead of real issues Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #36

Calling out the press femmedem Dec 2016 #39

A bit more than a bit, I would say. He politely told them they bear the responsibility for this Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #41

Re response to hacking femmedem Dec 2016 #48

Great summary- thank you!!! bettyellen Dec 2016 #55

He's talking about cyber warfare and the multitude of possible targets - many private - bettyellen Dec 2016 #40

Noted that DNC is private entity LeftInTX Dec 2016 #53

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #42

Take that right-wing tripe elsewhere please. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #50

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #54

He's the President of the United States. He knows. WillowTree Dec 2016 #57

Bang on. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2016 #66

My daughter may owe her life to ACA, you called his PRESIDENCY weak & INEFFECTUAL Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #59

You've been here all of one day and want to come in here with right-wing smears against POTUS? Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #65

Looks like MIRT got them. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #108

Woo Hoo! Nice to know :-) Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #110

Weak and ineffectual describes what you are about to experience under the reign of mfcorey1 Dec 2016 #74

Welcome to DU, firerises Hekate Dec 2016 #76

Right? Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #100

Nice to see you too Hekate Dec 2016 #120

He's been shown the door mcar Dec 2016 #104

Sounds like he intends to blame the press. cwydro Dec 2016 #43

Sounds more like snpsmom Dec 2016 #58

Ha. cwydro Dec 2016 #62

Not n/t snpsmom Dec 2016 #64

W respect to response: pre election tried not "too feed any idea in the public that tampering bettyellen Dec 2016 #45

He's right about delegitimizing the process loyalsister Dec 2016 #77

When we have taken actions we can reveal publicly we will do so, but there are things that Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #46

Did he say it went off without a hitch? NightWatcher Dec 2016 #47

'Maybe I can give some advice to the Democratic Party. elleng Dec 2016 #49

Coverage of Clinton's campaign "was troubling" advises Dems to bettyellen Dec 2016 #51

Re: FBI, elleng Dec 2016 #61

q about he FBI response being "lackadaisical"... and that perhaps the bettyellen Dec 2016 #56

"Help keep us safe.....always a challenge safety/politics, want them to play it straight. bettyellen Dec 2016 #60

Re FBI femmedem Dec 2016 #63

Re: Aleppo could not commit to large number of troops on the ground without a request or support of bettyellen Dec 2016 #67

Someone not feeling good. elleng Dec 2016 #68

He looks so tired. Wrinkles are grooves not lines.Due to.... elfin Dec 2016 #69

Last night my husband & I were talking about what to call He Who Must not be Named, Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #158

Got that moniker from another poster on DU (can't remember who) elfin Dec 2016 #161

I also like the implication of him being a Russian agent. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #164

Medical emergency in press core, asking for MD in the room. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #70

President's MD summoned, person being taken to Obama's doctor's office in WH Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #73

And the President stops waits to see if he can help until the situation is take care of. crosinski Dec 2016 #79

Indeed. It's heartbreakng. nt Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #93

This is not going to be popular here, but..... Sissyk Dec 2016 #72

And that was not easy to type. Sissyk Dec 2016 #78

Thanks, Sissyk. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2016 #89

I agree, greataunt! Sissyk Dec 2016 #106

It's a hard line and has to be especially difficult, considering that Drump is next. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2016 #115

Yep. GoCubsGo Dec 2016 #111

President Obama is subtle and has great finesse. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2016 #117

Discussing Syria LeftInTX Dec 2016 #75

"On the cheap" not possible in any sense.Would take a lot of American lives to accomplish anything Hekate Dec 2016 #118

I like the way he keeps mentioning the Russian/Assad LeftInTX Dec 2016 #80

Yes! Now he's hammering home Trump's friendly relationship w Russia bettyellen Dec 2016 #91

Read between the lines blitzburgh55 Dec 2016 #82

+1, "Trump denying the Russian hacking tells me, they're preparing for the shoe to drop. " uponit7771 Dec 2016 #86

I don't think you're wrong. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2016 #92

Humility... Amen uponit7771 Dec 2016 #83

Re:hacking Russians: "A lot of it will stay classified" bettyellen Dec 2016 #84

Question about declassification LeftInTX Dec 2016 #85

We have to think about our politcal culture when "some people" are trusting the RUSSIANS more Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #87

Good stuff! bettyellen Dec 2016 #122

Hitting Rs for their Russia support mcar Dec 2016 #88

Surprised that so many repugs 'approve' of putin. elleng Dec 2016 #90

Re DTs appointments- up to him, process w senate will begin... bettyellen Dec 2016 #94

Can you unequivocally state it was Russia hacking? Report will asses it's Russia .... bettyellen Dec 2016 #96

"Not much happens in Russia without Putin" - confirmed its happened st the bettyellen Dec 2016 #99

"Ronald Reagan would be rolling over in his grave" LeftInTX Dec 2016 #97

He is really hitting the Rs on their hypocrisy re Russia mcar Dec 2016 #98

Yes- as well as the press! bettyellen Dec 2016 #102

Do the DT tweets embolden Russia? A "he's still in transition mode" bettyellen Dec 2016 #101

"Everyone is corrupt everything raises suspicion..." narrative helped the Russians push BS.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #103

Throwing some elbows now mcar Dec 2016 #107

Well deserved elbows. The press will ignore it all though. bettyellen Dec 2016 #124

They have no capacity for introspection mcar Dec 2016 #126

Have seen plenty of phony introspection and deflections though! bettyellen Dec 2016 #127

Yup mcar Dec 2016 #129

BOOM... "...Do you trust Russia more than our intel services..." uponit7771 Dec 2016 #105

Great statement! bettyellen Dec 2016 #114

Important to see how PE and his team will handle this issue - THEY'VE BEEN BRIEFED on this issue Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #109

He's basically saying we're fucked if we don't grow up and use our heads BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #112

I agree mcar Dec 2016 #116

And if he'd come out ranting and raving... greatauntoftriplets Dec 2016 #150

Yep mcar Dec 2016 #156

Yup. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2016 #152

Our agreement w China has kept the peace and Taiwan safe. For China issue of Taiwan bettyellen Dec 2016 #119

Did Obama just totally ignored Richard D Dec 2016 #121

Perhaps, but he made it clear the report is coming when it's coming... bettyellen Dec 2016 #123

DNC - nice words about Perez. bettyellen Dec 2016 #125

About Electors meeting who are thinking of changing votes, should they be briefed? Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #128

"If we look for one easy fix.... we'll be disappointed " it's been degrading the last ten years.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #132

Blamed part of 2010 loss on on-going financial crisis LeftInTX Dec 2016 #130

Wow, just wants Dems to take a breath and be less polarizing. JudyM Dec 2016 #131

I didn't hear that? Quote? I thought he was talking about the GOP and the press. bettyellen Dec 2016 #134

When he started addressing the electoral college revolt possibility, he used that phrase and that JudyM Dec 2016 #137

Ah- 'twas specific regarding the EC. Otherwise he hammered the GOP on their hyper partisan stance bettyellen Dec 2016 #139

Still, that's huge. And reflective of his posture toward the entire post-election mess: roll over. JudyM Dec 2016 #140

As far as the EC goes I agree. Just as I disagreed w Sanders trying to upend the norms during his bettyellen Dec 2016 #142

Could you please rephrase that? No idea what you mean.... JudyM Dec 2016 #144

I think all the talk of upending the electoral college is pointless crap, as were the bettyellen Dec 2016 #168

Ok I see what you mean. Thanks. JudyM Dec 2016 #170

youre welcome! bettyellen Dec 2016 #172

Um, the extremely nasty, divsive, polarizing party just won Yuuuuuuuge in the last Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #159

Not just this time, either, Dark n Stormy! Think gerrymanderers, Gingrich, tea party, McConnell... JudyM Dec 2016 #162

I know. Yet, I keep hearing this crap about how we need to play nice. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #163

I am so with you. Anti confrontation appeasement has its place, but our party already has a problem JudyM Dec 2016 #165

You didn't listen then, because that is NOT what he said Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #148

I interpreted him differently than you, it seems. JudyM Dec 2016 #157

Emphasizing there are facts that show we are better off. He can prove that. bettyellen Dec 2016 #133

God bless Obama. He looks so tired. Hekate Dec 2016 #135

Same here. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2016 #153

How is FLOTUS healthy eating a greater threat to democracy than threatening the free press? Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #136

He hit Republicans very hard mcar Dec 2016 #141

People wanted a screaming shit fit, because they WANT IT, not thinking or caring Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #145

Not only that, but some thought he was having Sissyk Dec 2016 #151

You're correct. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2016 #154

His eyes misted when discussing the Marine band LeftInTX Dec 2016 #138

President emphasizing protecting the important institutions that prop up democracy .... bettyellen Dec 2016 #143

There is no doubt that Obama has charisma. ... spin Dec 2016 #147

Well fuckitall! Let's just let NBC hold **AMERICA'S NEXT PRESIDENT** every 4 years Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #149

In my opinion a candidate with charisma can beat an extremely competent and ... spin Dec 2016 #155

Like in many things, charisma is in the eye of the beholder. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #160

A friend of mine was talking to a fella in a bar in Montana and the guy was shocked to find out bettyellen Dec 2016 #167

I can only assume that is due to a failure to look past the RW media for Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #173

I just got in from work, what did I miss? Fla_Democrat Dec 2016 #166