Rural vs. Urban? They're different, for sure.

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13. not blaming you at all, i'm thinking of the reasoning of others as well.

yeah, the real problem is that it has become very, very hard to convince anyone of anything these days, at least across the great political divide. that's pretty much all on the media, which is nearly content- and genuine debate-free. what they call content is at best gossip and speculation, usually pro-republican and anti-democratic, and what they call debate is just an argument or even just a shouting match.

so campaigns have become more and more about turnout than convincing. that said, i think the problem is in the timing -- by campaign season, the time for convincing has passed. we have to do the convincing for 2020 *now*.


as for it being a "mistake", i'm loathe to fault a campaign that won the popular vote by a comfortable margin and lost many battleground states by very small margins, given a media that gave 85% of the coverage to her opponent and what coverage they did give to hillary was nearly all about the fake scandals created by the republican propaganda machine.

it's as if trump was allowed to ride his bike around the inside lane with a 5-second headstart and hillary had to use the outside lane and people are critiquing her hurdling technique.