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In reply to the discussion: New NSA docs contradict Bush Administration 9-11 claims [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)34. The master blackmailers do seem to get ahead.
And who better to know what tell-tale hearts are beating beneath the floorboards than the NSA?
That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesnt matter. There would be no place to hide. If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.
I dont want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capability that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.
-- Sen. Frank Church (D-Idaho) in 1975
Imagine what the president's friends can do "for him" now?
Frank Church and the Abyss of Warrentless Wiretapping.
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The odd thing here is that the CTC budget more than quadrupled 1997-9/11. What happened is
leveymg
Jun 2012
#22
Black, at least, is doing well these days. Oh well, there's still real hope for...One Day: Justice!
Octafish
Jun 2012
#26
Black was the nuts and bolts guy - look up the chain of command at who authorized all this, and why.
leveymg
Jun 2012
#86
Actually Cole bombing happened under Cheney (privatized logistics in 91) and his KBR (Halliburton)
blm
Jun 2012
#10
I never believed the Cole was anything but deliberate by the fascists involved with Bush-Cheney
blm
Jun 2012
#65
I never really figured out what The Cole was all about, other than a provocation
leveymg
Jun 2012
#69
Jim Hatfield wrote Bush afraid of bin Laden aerial attack at G-7 summit in Geneva in April 2001...
Octafish
Jun 2012
#28
Just as more alert citizens have been saying for over a decade now. Too bad the most comprehensive
blm
Jun 2012
#8
Yep, report is getting no traction, just like they planned when they kicked up FandF's faux outrage
blm
Jun 2012
#42
I have always figured there is enough dirt in Government archives to shut down Republicans.
gordianot
Jun 2012
#9
The right will attack this disclosure as politically motivated in order to divert attention from the
Citizen Worker
Jun 2012
#15
Me, too, Doctor. Amazing how much criminality is made plain, yet nothing happens to the crooks.
Octafish
Jun 2012
#41
Looks to me like the intelligence community wants to set the record straight...
ljm2002
Jun 2012
#23
The PNAC is still pursuing its agenda. It's been delayed a little because as you said, Iraq
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#61
Profound. So, what have you to say regarding the CIA data dump showing Bush knew and did nothing?
Octafish
Jun 2012
#54
Bush isn't the issue, or did you miss that? Well, you weren't around here during the Bush years
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#68
A WAR CRIMINAL THAT COMMITTED TREASON IS TERRIBLE TO BEHOLD-WORSE IS THE UNACCOUNTABILITY.
bobthedrummer
Jun 2012
#72
I haven't forgotten the Texas vacations of that war criminal nor who and what his "top advisors"
bobthedrummer
Jun 2012
#40
I'd like to silently feed them, breakfast and lunch-slide the tray through the slot into their pod!
bobthedrummer
Jun 2012
#57
Did Brian Williams report it on NBC yet? Did Diane Sawyer of CBS report it? That other guy on ABC?
Major Hogwash
Jun 2012
#47
Diane SAWYER is with ABC; btw, she was mentored by Nixon's Press Sec Ron ZIEGLER n/t
bobthedrummer
Jun 2012
#58
We all learn something everyday, Major. Otherwise we'd be dead, imo. No coincidences in politics!
bobthedrummer
Jun 2012
#71
So, 'bin Laden determined to strike in the United States' wasn't the only time Bush heard.
Octafish
Jun 2012
#78