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elleng

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15. "I said Clinton was in trouble with the voters I represent. Democrats didnt listen."
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:28 AM
Dec 2016

By Debbie Dingell November 10

Debbie Dingell, a Democrat, represents Michigan’s 12th Congressional District in the House.

I was the crazy one. I predicted that Hillary Clinton was in trouble in Michigan during the Democratic primary. I observed that Donald Trump could win the Republican nomination for president. And at Rotary clubs, local chambers of commerce, union halls and mosques, I noted that we could see a Trump presidency. “That’s Debbie, it’s hyperbole, she is nuts.”

It’s now our reality , and as Americans we need to understand why. My district reflects much of this country’s diversity. Ann Arbor is a university- and start-up town. Ypsilanti is urban, and its issues mirror those of larger cities such as Detroit and Chicago. Dearborn is headquarters to Ford Motor Co. and has the largest Muslim population in the country. The “Downrivers” — a collection of communities south of Detroit — mean auto plants and manufacturing with strong union membership.

Much of the district is Democratic and those voters strongly supported Bernie Sanders in the primary. That result didn’t surprise me, but it did infuriate me that Clinton and her team didn’t show up until the weekend before the primary, when it suddenly became clear they had a problem. I took Bill Clinton grocery shopping that Saturday — too little, way too late. They never stopped on a campus; never went to a union hall; never talked to the Arab American community. Sanders was in my district 10 times during the primary. How would any sane person not predict how this one would go? It was fixable for the general election.'>>>

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from Senator Sanders: [View all] elleng Dec 2016 OP
Excellent post...and a point I've been trying to drive home Docreed2003 Dec 2016 #1
Thanks, Doc. elleng Dec 2016 #2
Happy Holidays to you and yours elleng!!! Docreed2003 Dec 2016 #12
"...we certainly won't succeed if we condescendingly speak down to the people..." tecelote Dec 2016 #5
If somebody couldn't get up off their ass and do the right thing to stop orange hitler then yes Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #10
I live in true blue Illinois. murielm99 Dec 2016 #3
You are fortunate, that your senators are accessible. elleng Dec 2016 #4
What does that even MEAN? There are real people living in Washington, DC, pnwmom Dec 2016 #6
I'm pretty sure he was referring to Capital Hill rather than major cities. white_wolf Dec 2016 #8
He's not talking about the people of D.C.. Docreed2003 Dec 2016 #13
Hillary was doing more than talking -- she was LISTENING. pnwmom Dec 2016 #14
"I said Clinton was in trouble with the voters I represent. Democrats didnt listen." elleng Dec 2016 #15
Michigan was one of the worst states for voter suppression. Too bad Michigan pnwmom Dec 2016 #16
My post wasn't in reference to Sec Clinton... Docreed2003 Dec 2016 #20
But as long as we have voter suppression, a rigged electoral system, pnwmom Dec 2016 #21
All of those issues are certainly things we must fight... Docreed2003 Dec 2016 #22
Really? The voters in Wisconsin never spoke with her after the primary. yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #62
He's literally dog whistling to the people who hate us they'd never consider leaving their white bettyellen Dec 2016 #31
Well said. kcr Dec 2016 #37
I found out from friends who've follow d Sanders for years that this aversion bettyellen Dec 2016 #45
Well, they want welfare recipients drug tested, they want Syrian refugees to die Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #7
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #9
Too bad he spent July, August, and September writing his book. n/t pnwmom Dec 2016 #11
He didn't actually endorse Hillary until the convention, murielm99 Dec 2016 #17
he endorsed her before the convention JI7 Dec 2016 #18
Well, this is no time for him to be out murielm99 Dec 2016 #19
He's relevant to everything. elleng Dec 2016 #23
I heard and read what our President said. murielm99 Dec 2016 #34
He's more relevant than ever. Especially considering Keith Ellison is on track to head up the DNC white_wolf Dec 2016 #24
Thanks, white_wolf. elleng Dec 2016 #27
Lost the battle but won the war? murielm99 Dec 2016 #33
No, Clinton won the battle and lost the war. white_wolf Dec 2016 #41
He really isn't. His post election behavior has hardened people against him who already seaglass Dec 2016 #39
Because Chocolate City ain't the real world? bettyellen Dec 2016 #25
You CAN, I assume, understand what he wrote. elleng Dec 2016 #26
It's hilarious that the man who lectured at huge rallies non stop is telling us the woman who bettyellen Dec 2016 #28
STILL can't face his suggestion. elleng Dec 2016 #29
His suggestion that these "real Americans" want to support his E Coast liberal tax and spend bettyellen Dec 2016 #30
More like 'real Americans' (and others not so real?) maybe not so real elleng Dec 2016 #32
Not sure what that has to do with "listening to people" because Sanders certainly bettyellen Dec 2016 #35
What I can't figure out is WHY NOW? murielm99 Dec 2016 #47
I agree. Lots of sexist crap with this "dynasty" nonsense and calling her too weak bettyellen Dec 2016 #49
Get a grip. Was it sexist of Obama to run in 2008? After all...Hillary was a woman then, as well. TCJ70 Dec 2016 #72
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #74
He has the right idea alarimer Dec 2016 #36
More like too bad so many are so full of Bernie love kcr Dec 2016 #38
What is wrong with talking about real Americans? PotatoChip Dec 2016 #40
It implies the bullshit that immigrants, women and urban dwellers are not "hard working" and fully bettyellen Dec 2016 #48
Exactly Emilybemily Dec 2016 #52
this this this obamanut2012 Dec 2016 #59
Silly nonsense ThirdEye Dec 2016 #63
He said "other states" in "other parts" away from the "coastal elites".... bettyellen Dec 2016 #66
Good grief, Betty... TCJ70 Dec 2016 #67
He has been pushing the "White working class" rust beltcrap since the bettyellen Dec 2016 #69
+1. JudyM Dec 2016 #43
I support Senator Sanders. LWolf Dec 2016 #42
Sometimes a person's view is distorted enough that they might miss what is actually real. This is JudyM Dec 2016 #46
Yes, and then there are those here who seem voluntarily to MISS what is actually real. elleng Dec 2016 #58
Yes Yes Yes! elleng Dec 2016 #51
recommended H2O Man Dec 2016 #44
HI, H20 Man! elleng Dec 2016 #50
Hello, Friend Elleng! H2O Man Dec 2016 #53
Oh for Gods Sake Bernie ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #54
Please Bernie. Go away. cwydro Dec 2016 #55
and if he did, tomorrow... ThirdEye Dec 2016 #64
He didn't say anything profound, or unique...nt asuhornets Dec 2016 #56
You didn't say anything profound, or unique either... ThirdEye Dec 2016 #65
I'm not a Senator from Vermont...who thinks he could have done it better....nt asuhornets Dec 2016 #71
Good God -- his career is as a mainstream politician obamanut2012 Dec 2016 #57
Time for a Bernie Blamer page on DU? HassleCat Dec 2016 #60
+1 Blue_In_AK Dec 2016 #61
Best idea I've seen yet... TCJ70 Dec 2016 #68
It really has become an ugly obsession for some. demmiblue Dec 2016 #73
That's a big bunch of mistakes all in once place. gulliver Dec 2016 #70
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