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HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 10:01 AM Dec 2016

Did "the economic message not resonate", or is it that we just didn't want to LIE to them? [View all]

Here's the rub with trying to "understand" a Trump voter.

Their concerns were portrayed as "primarily economic", right?

What I'm gathering from all the political/news commentators and comments sections was that they wanted someone to tell them their jobs are returning, their talents are necessary, and there would be no need for them to get additional skills to improve their lives (even though they seem to have no issue telling minimum wage earners this . . . over and over and over and over again).

Problem is, the phenomenon of job dearth and labor movement was primarily caused by A) Conservative businesspersons acting ON CHOICE to please major shareholders and cost-cut until they're operating threadbare or close entirely and walk away with millions and/or B) Conservatives getting tax breaks and tax cuts from Republican politicians which allowed them to either offshore jobs to cheaper climes or perform stock buybacks and fire their workers.

In short, they wanted someone to LIE to them, and Orange Lincoln Rockwell was that liar.

There was never a chance that ANY politicians could make jobs return, because they generally don't have the power to do that. Greed, automation and offshore outsourcing ain't going to be put back in their tubes. Their plights center around the conservative businessperson doing what a fiscally conservative businessperson does - look out for #1 (and numbers 2-13, depending on how big their boards are).

See, you cannot tell them this, because THOSE Conservative businesspersons are their HEROES. It's the same reason we have to work so painfully hard to try and convince them of our message as opposed to the other side that "middle America" sees as THEIR ideal.

They see themselves as "one lucky break from BEING Donald Trump" rather than "One missed paycheck from living under a bridge".


THAT'S the problem.

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Not sure what your clause in the parenthesis means. Would you please expand on it? Kolesar Dec 2016 #1
"2-13" major shareholders on the board of directors, if applicable. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #4
I wanted a "Bud Light" Kolesar Dec 2016 #7
If you mean this section - HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #14
Aha! Wage deflation for skilled and semiskilled work Kolesar Dec 2016 #16
Gee . . . who was about to be President then? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #18
[x] Like for your post Kolesar Dec 2016 #19
They want to be lied to. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #2
Or if they DO stay/come back Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #9
That's the rub of it SubjectiveLife78 Dec 2016 #3
But.....but.....that's making America less......"exceptional" Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #11
That's not an easy sell for anyone SubjectiveLife78 Dec 2016 #20
Gainfully employed workers buying products and services isn't necessary for Capitalism? HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #15
There's no easy answer to that question SubjectiveLife78 Dec 2016 #21
No. mercuryblues Dec 2016 #5
They voted for him because of the R next to his name Trekologer Dec 2016 #6
[x] Like for your post Kolesar Dec 2016 #8
They see themselves as "one lucky break from BEING Donald Trump" rather than "One missed paycheck smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #10
A small portion of his voters was motivated by economics. The supermajority was motivated by bigotry LonePirate Dec 2016 #12
Maybe that's why "primarily economic" was in quotes. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #13
Yes a BIG spoonful of LIES with a big helping of RACISM...& Tah-Dah... Good to Go! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #17
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