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deist99

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87. Ditto

Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:03 PM

Dec 2016

I also appreciate your repectful responses. I firmly believe to get to the root of the problem you have to correctly identify it. To often in these discussions emotions take over and reason and respect go out the window.

I currently have a daughter in high school and some of the stuff these girls are doing nowadays blows my mind. They aggressively pursue these boys in many cases. My wife and I are both blown away by it. It is certainly not like when we went to high school in 80s.

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University of Minnesota Football Team Will Play Bowl Game - Sexual Assault Case [View all] MineralMan Dec 2016 OP

I don't understand why they weren't criminally prosecuted? FarCenter Dec 2016 #1

The DA apparently believed that the evidence was not sufficient MineralMan Dec 2016 #2

Here's a link to a U of M page: MineralMan Dec 2016 #3

Simply put, college sportsball teams are money makers for the school. And that Trumps everything. Crash2Parties Dec 2016 #38

Video deist99 Dec 2016 #52

....... obamanut2012 Dec 2016 #92

What is wrong with these young men? Tatiana Dec 2016 #4

I don't know, frankly. MineralMan Dec 2016 #6

You know the players committed sexual assault? NobodyHere Dec 2016 #61

I am fairly certain the victim would not have willingly consented to the events that occurred. Tatiana Dec 2016 #81

K&R... spanone Dec 2016 #5

Thank you. I've been very disturbed about this MineralMan Dec 2016 #7

i've been troubled for years on the importance put on sports over academics in many of our schools. spanone Dec 2016 #8

I'm disturbed by the rush to judgement NobodyHere Dec 2016 #63

Go Cougs! KamaAina Dec 2016 #9

Duke, Rolling Stone/UVA, etc. Without a jury verdict Kang Colby Dec 2016 #10

They had due process. However the University of Minnesota MrsMatt Dec 2016 #11

Well, there is a video... FarCenter Dec 2016 #12

"Entirely consensual". Kang Colby Dec 2016 #13

The university could simply expel them for unethical or immoral conduct FarCenter Dec 2016 #17

Yes, black men having sex is always considered immoral. AngryAmish Dec 2016 #22

Did you read the report? oberliner Dec 2016 #23

Riiiiiiight whathehell Dec 2016 #78

She says it was not consensual oberliner Dec 2016 #27

The men said it was consensual, the evidence favors these young men. Kang Colby Dec 2016 #29

I know it's hard for some to believe that a woman might not want to be gang raped oberliner Dec 2016 #32

It's easy to understand. Law enforcement investigated, found insufficient evidence to substantiate Kang Colby Dec 2016 #34

Men get away with sexually assaulting women quite frequently oberliner Dec 2016 #37

Before deist99 Dec 2016 #55

I would encourage you to read the report in this situation oberliner Dec 2016 #69

+1000 whathehell Dec 2016 #79

No crime is alleged, so innocence doesn't matter here. RedWedge Dec 2016 #39

It doesn't matter if she got up on the table and announced "I'LL FUCK EVERY GUY HERE" Coventina Dec 2016 #89

So, the men said they didn't commit a felony obamanut2012 Dec 2016 #93

Considering that this post was the first I knew of their races, I'm not sure you can chalk it mythology Dec 2016 #14

According to the police, there is allegedly video evidence Kang Colby Dec 2016 #16

Video evidence indicates the FIRST encounter may have been MrsMatt Dec 2016 #19

See post #12. Kang Colby Dec 2016 #21

Did you read the university report? oberliner Dec 2016 #28

I did. Kang Colby Dec 2016 #30

The woman's allegations have not been discredited oberliner Dec 2016 #44

The DA didn't agree. n/t Kang Colby Dec 2016 #45

Hennepin County prosecutors declined to press charges oberliner Dec 2016 #86

It's bemusing you're the only one projecting Post hoc ergo prompter hoc motive onto all speculation LanternWaste Dec 2016 #72

There is no consent if "drunk and impaired". whathehell Dec 2016 #76

Thank you! whathehell Dec 2016 #80

Wow, thanks for posting philosslayer Dec 2016 #18

Of course you would. MrsMatt Dec 2016 #20

So you think maybe this woman just made up a story about being raped? oberliner Dec 2016 #25

Reputation NobodyHere Dec 2016 #62

So in that scenario, she voluntary consented to have sex with multiple men over a few hours oberliner Dec 2016 #64

what a shocker obamanut2012 Dec 2016 #94

So you think the woman is lying? oberliner Dec 2016 #24

I can't speculate on why she made the allegations. Kang Colby Dec 2016 #26

So your assumption is that she is lying oberliner Dec 2016 #31

She made accusations. Why do you insist that these young men are guilty... Kang Colby Dec 2016 #33

Women who report sexual assault should be believed oberliner Dec 2016 #35

I hear what you are saying....but we need equity within our justice system Kang Colby Dec 2016 #36

I am not suggesting we convict anyone without a trial oberliner Dec 2016 #40

Well, that's exactly what the university did. Kang Colby Dec 2016 #42

No, they didn't oberliner Dec 2016 #48

Where in the code of conduct does it prohibit consensual group sex? Kang Colby Dec 2016 #50

I thought you had read the university report oberliner Dec 2016 #66

Malarkey deist99 Dec 2016 #58

That is the criminal justice system oberliner Dec 2016 #67

Can you walk me through why you feel that because a criminal charges weren't brought, RedWedge Dec 2016 #41

The men NEVER agreed they wouldn't participate in consensual group sex. eom Kang Colby Dec 2016 #43

The University of Minnesota has an affirmative consent policy. RedWedge Dec 2016 #46

There isn't sufficient evidence that she didn't say yes. n/t Kang Colby Dec 2016 #47

It's reasonable to assume she consented to the initial threesome. RedWedge Dec 2016 #49

Without context, "I don't want to" Kang Colby Dec 2016 #51

No, but someone who was there said it seemed like she didn't like it. RedWedge Dec 2016 #56

Thank you for the civility. eom Kang Colby Dec 2016 #59

Your rationalized consistency as to the innocence of males is heart-warming. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #74

I suspect your inability to "speculate" has more to do with whathehell Dec 2016 #83

Good point deist99 Dec 2016 #53

"she may have had a gang bang and then felt guilty about it afterwards and cried raped" oberliner Dec 2016 #54

It's happened before deist99 Dec 2016 #57

Have you read the university report? oberliner Dec 2016 #68

Yes deist99 Dec 2016 #70

Thanks for sharing your perspective oberliner Dec 2016 #82

Ditto deist99 Dec 2016 #87

So has gang rape...Statistically, rape is under reported, not over reported. whathehell Dec 2016 #84

You're a real corker, aren't you? obamanut2012 Dec 2016 #95

Sorry, Anyone participating in such a thing is lacking in morals. cwydro Dec 2016 #77

+100 whathehell Dec 2016 #85

yup obamanut2012 Dec 2016 #96

Do you have a sister? A mother? A good friend who is a woman? MineralMan Dec 2016 #88

So women are not allowed to have sex with multiple partners at once? NobodyHere Dec 2016 #90

Not at all. MineralMan Dec 2016 #99

Ok deist99 Dec 2016 #97

No, you don't have it at all. MineralMan Dec 2016 #98

I can't imagine what goes through the minds of guys who do this mythology Dec 2016 #15

Problem deist99 Dec 2016 #60

She took 4-5 shots of 100-proof vodka oberliner Dec 2016 #65

From the same report deist99 Dec 2016 #71

Right oberliner Dec 2016 #75

All of them should be expelled. alarimer Dec 2016 #73

The Duke Lacrosse players say "hi" NobodyHere Dec 2016 #91