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In reply to the discussion: The electoral vote today showed why Democrats lose [View all]BainsBane
(57,775 posts)And it had nothing to do with what she actually ran on.
You decided she was an appendage of her husband and not worth considering in her own right. You can then hardly claim her proposals weren't progressive enough when your yourself didn't care enough about issues or policy to even consider them.
How can you expect the electorate at large to care about policies and issues when you don't?
It turns out third way is not about ideology or policy. It mean she's a woman--she was married to a third way pol from the 90s, so why concern yourself with her plans for the nation? She just didn't have the presidential look.
Your post shows why this country is fucked. You focus exclusively on image and association and not one bit on substance. And I'm supposed to agree to vote as people like you tell me to, when you don't even care about what a candidate actually proposes and are content to throw around derogatory labels based on what amounts to nothing? No. I will continue to examine candidate's policy positions and voting record and make my decisions based on actual evidence. And I certainly will not agree to allow a faction of the party who cares about none of that to dictate how I vote.
This is why we now have a fascist government about to take power, not because Clinton was too centrist but because voters don't actually care about policy. You just undermined your argument about progressive vs. centrist ideas by admitting you focused entirely on image. With an electorate that cares about nothing, we get a government that does nothing for them. This is exactly why we have Donald Trump about to become president.
Third way is not something the broader electorate contemplates. It is a label used by a certain segment of progressives. When you talk about not being able to shake a third way message, you mean to voters like yourself, not the general electorate. Everything you have said undermines your claims that the party wasn't progressive enough. For that to be a factor, people have to actually give a shit about policy and issues, and you just admitted it wasn't about that.