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HAB911

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92. Not personally, but I can read

Wed Dec 21, 2016, 08:39 AM

Dec 2016

While all the delicate snowflakes whine about no jobs,
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/29/news/economy/american-farm-workers/

http://business.time.com/2012/09/21/bitter-harvest-u-s-farmers-blame-billion-dollar-losses-on-immigration-laws/

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-06/crops-rot-while-trump-led-immigration-backlash-idles-farm-lobby

http://www.agweb.com/article/farmers-brace-for-labor-shortage-under-new-immigration-policy-associated-press/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/on-u-s-farms-fewer-hands-for-the-harvest-1439371802

http://www.voanews.com/a/us-farmers-depend-on-illegal-immigrants-100541644/162082.html

https://mic.com/articles/8272/alabama-illegal-immigrant-crackdown-destroys-farm-business

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/alabama-immigration-law-causing-produce-to-rot-in-the-fields/

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/georgias-new-immigration-law-leading-to-crops-rotting-in-farmers-fields/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/14/alabama-immigration-law-workers

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/06/georgias-harsh-immigration-law-costs-millions-in-unharvested-crops/240774/

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Do you REALLY want to understand Trumpers and white working-class voters? Please read this. Please. [View all] DetlefK Dec 2016 OP

And yet: if not for millions of votes lost to voter suppression, the Russians interference, pnwmom Dec 2016 #1

It was an avalanche of tiny problems. DetlefK Dec 2016 #4

Hillary was proposing a major infrastructure program, and with interest rates pnwmom Dec 2016 #5

It doesn't matter what the Dems propose forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #11

Rigged Media NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #23

I think the mercuryblues Dec 2016 #28

A query quakerboy Dec 2016 #88

they were empowered by a weakened Voting Rights Activists, for one thing fishwax Dec 2016 #93

The Reeps stole the election. ananda Dec 2016 #36

Fixing voter suppression, jailing James Comey and fixing hacking is harder work than believing uponit7771 Dec 2016 #59

A man of true insight. tenorly Dec 2016 #2

? treestar Dec 2016 #25

He might have gotten a kick out of the conspiracy theory Bush had him killed though. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #51

lol treestar Dec 2016 #53

Scary, because Trump doesn't have to succeed Granny M Dec 2016 #3

ANY apocalypse annabanana Dec 2016 #6

And a lot of them sense that they, personally, will do fine in the case of social Nay Dec 2016 #34

I agree get the red out Dec 2016 #17

Right. They'll keep voting for trump, especially if the repugs finally approve . . . brush Dec 2016 #41

Great quote from LBJ Granny M Dec 2016 #48

+1, ... or embrace Russia as long as their lives aren't affected uponit7771 Dec 2016 #60

K&R TexasProgresive Dec 2016 #7

Interesting dembotoz Dec 2016 #8

Trump will steal us all blind while his supporters.... Stellar Dec 2016 #9

Thank you for posting. Bookmarked, recommended, kicked. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2016 #10

ordinary, uneducated, hard-working people - TOTAL BULLSHIT HAB911 Dec 2016 #12

Yep. treestar Dec 2016 #26

Plus, the avg Twitler voter made more money than avg HRC voter uponit7771 Dec 2016 #61

Have we tried offering a living wage to do that? quakerboy Dec 2016 #89

Not personally, but I can read HAB911 Dec 2016 #92

No thanks kcr Dec 2016 #13

I don't think that's a valid conclusion. I agree they're bullies. But it seems to me the conclusion KittyWampus Dec 2016 #54

If you agree they're bullies, then how is my point not valid? kcr Dec 2016 #66

You implied we need to do what bullies want. Have a good week! KittyWampus Dec 2016 #67

The biker community is somewhat more diversified now. Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #14

I have a few biker friends radical noodle Dec 2016 #37

You have to be careful with generalizations. Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #49

I didn't mean it as a generalization radical noodle Dec 2016 #50

+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #15

Hillary failed to connect with The Wizard Dec 2016 #16

Nail on head. Ding! n/t BREMPRO Dec 2016 #18

i've wondered if trump's actual goal barbtries Dec 2016 #19

I recall a magazine article I read after Reagan got elected..... lastlib Dec 2016 #20

If Trump voters were only from that demographic, Hillary would have won. noel711 Dec 2016 #21

Yup. n/t progressoid Dec 2016 #22

Marking for later read underpants Dec 2016 #24

A good read Achilleaze Dec 2016 #27

They had no sympathy for us MFM008 Dec 2016 #29

Precious snowflakes come in all shapes and sizes BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #30

Here is where I disagree BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #31

No you dont "NEED" that degree. You can make good money in trade work. 7962 Dec 2016 #32

Votech has been gutted in this country so people have no idea the trades can be so lucrative forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #33

Good info. This should be a part of the DEM platform and used in stump speeches brush Dec 2016 #44

YEP! Cosmocat Dec 2016 #58

I agree nt 7962 Dec 2016 #68

WHO .... doesn't 'need' that degree?! You see the UE rate for non degree PoC? Come on people uponit7771 Dec 2016 #62

You dont need the degree regardless of your color. Read my post 7962 Dec 2016 #69

so true KT2000 Dec 2016 #83

I bet there are many people like you with personal experience like this. 7962 Dec 2016 #84

Time to organize. littlemissmartypants Dec 2016 #35

Blame minorities for their own short comings. we can do it Dec 2016 #38

By all means, let's try to connect with the "Them Ivry Leaguers can't tell me whot to do" population NBachers Dec 2016 #39

Yes! It goes like this Land Shark Dec 2016 #40

According to Thompson these people would kill you or give you a serious beating if they could. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #42

I live work and socialize witb "deplorables" Land Shark Dec 2016 #86

Get them back? The Deplorables can sit and spin on the cosmic utensil until they rot, TYVM. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #65

Lots Of Truth From The Good Doc colsohlibgal Dec 2016 #43

We are at the point of no return it seems. Like the opening scene of Idocracy. JTFrog Dec 2016 #45

These are racist criminals. Men who choose to live "outside the law" and fund their existence jalan48 Dec 2016 #46

Now THIS is interesting ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #47

your post reminds me of the movie "Crash" yodermon Dec 2016 #55

Heh! ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #72

+1, "Still, they are fairly well off and white and in rural Arizona. " this is what's not making ... uponit7771 Dec 2016 #63

They are actually on a tropical vacation as I speak ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #73

Shitler isn't offending elites, he's attacking those people who voted for him with his actions. onecaliberal Dec 2016 #52

I understand what you are saying ellie Dec 2016 #56

+1, I'm really sick of hearing how non PoC in America have it bad... fuck, we have it worse always uponit7771 Dec 2016 #64

"white working-class" ? Raggaemon Dec 2016 #57

That's because during the 50's, 60's, and 70's, that class was the majority voters. haele Dec 2016 #70

No pride in elegant, functional code? AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #71

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The fact remains Clinton was a massively flawed candidate. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #81

Best explanation I have read re : trump supporters. kacekwl Dec 2016 #75

Wow! Delphinus Dec 2016 #76

yeah, yeah yeah heaven05 Dec 2016 #77

Well said Ghost OF Trotsky Dec 2016 #78

Great Post! BadGimp Dec 2016 #79

Way too broad a brush - nt rumdude Dec 2016 #80

Yea well the stupid fuckers got this.. pbmus Dec 2016 #82

I come from a white working-class background... MountCleaners Dec 2016 #85

Well said..and welcome to DU pbmus Dec 2016 #87

This has nothing to do what happened to this country. duffyduff Dec 2016 #90

The so-called "Silent Majority" that I saw carry signs at Trump rallys were never silent Boomerproud Dec 2016 #91

WOW even Uday & Qusay can't get poor white trash to work HAB911 Dec 2016 #94