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Wed Dec 21, 2016, 02:36 PM Dec 2016

A $15 Minimum Wage Is Not the Best Way to Help Poor Workers [View all]

A $15 Minimum Wage Is Not the Best Way to Help Poor Workers

By Harry J. Holzer - Dec 21 2016 9:49 AM ET

Holzer is the John LaFarge Jr. SJ Professor of Public Policy at Georgetown University and served as Chief Economist for the U.S. Department of Labor in the Clinton Administration.

Without a federal increase, it will hurt the few people it helps—but there is another way

Around the country, the Fight for $15 campaign continues to advocate for minimum wages of $15. Several states and large cities, including Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York and Washington, D.C., have passed such minimum wage ordinances, which will phase in over several years. The worthy goal is to help low-income workers earn a better living.

But there a few problems with this logic. For one, most minimum wage earners are not poor adults. They are, instead, young people (ages 16 to 24) or second earners in families where a spouse has a higher-wage job. So minimum wage increases help some poor heads of households, but is not well-targeted on them.

More importantly, by making unskilled workers so expensive for employers to hire, minimum wage increases can reduce employment among the very groups we are trying to help. When the minimum wage increases are moderate in size—up to, say, $10 an hour—such employment losses are very small, so the likely tradeoff between higher wage levels and lower employment becomes worthwhile...

Read more:
http://time.com/4608394/15-dollar-minimum-wage-eitc/
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That argument has been regurgatated since forever. Usually the ones making it shraby Dec 2016 #1
Yes, and experience refutes the old, tired argument. HassleCat Dec 2016 #3
If Trump and the GOP get their way, it'll slide back down closer to five MADem Dec 2016 #2
Horse hockey Sherman A1 Dec 2016 #4
Don't raise wages, make businesses more profitable! gratuitous Dec 2016 #5
Seriously, I am so SICk of hearing this crap. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #23
His stats are wrong edhopper Dec 2016 #6
let em work for free. call it internship or some other BS title. and no health care ok? nt msongs Dec 2016 #7
I don't get their argument that a minimum wage increase is only supposed to procon Dec 2016 #8
they're saying employers would hire less sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #11
Automation and tech advances will happen regardless of a minimum wage. procon Dec 2016 #17
I went to Olive Garden a couple of weeks back sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #25
Nope... Not regardless of minimum wage FBaggins Dec 2016 #29
But you understand that it is not just the hourly wage costs, right? procon Dec 2016 #37
I do... but I'm not sure how that helps your argument FBaggins Dec 2016 #45
Yeah, they're not going to do that anyway. Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #22
For many families even teenage wage earners put into the family "pot" so to speak. Willie Pep Dec 2016 #12
Single Payer health care coupled with a 15 dollar min wage Bettie Dec 2016 #9
Barf. Any business that can't pay a living wage deserves to die. hunter Dec 2016 #10
+1 putitinD Dec 2016 #18
Raising the minimum wage has never caused unemployment. DefenseLawyer Dec 2016 #13
Minimum Wage Mythbusters. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #14
Thank you for posting. An excellent source and great information. /nt think Dec 2016 #15
You're welcome. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #16
You got me curious. Perhaps it's this chart found here?: think Dec 2016 #20
Oops! I remembered the details wrong, but I found the source. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #21
Not true. The highest, inflation adjusted, minimum wage was about $10 in the 60's n/t taught_me_patience Dec 2016 #26
See my corrected "Oops" reply above. n/t Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #30
+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #24
Whenever I see one of these think pieces start off Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #19
And even if you take what they say as fact xor Dec 2016 #27
When I owned a business, the increase in minimum from 8 to 10 taught_me_patience Dec 2016 #28
Well, if your business could only be viable by paying sub-standard wages gratuitous Dec 2016 #32
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #35
Judgmental? gratuitous Dec 2016 #36
And his 8 workers who are unemployed are probably much better off also. . .. Johnathan146 Dec 2016 #46
The follow-up post has been taken down gratuitous Dec 2016 #47
not this retreaded crap again. nt Javaman Dec 2016 #31
I hate to read repuke propaganda on DU. Doremus Dec 2016 #33
thank you, and you are absolutely right about the importance of turnover. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #42
So much proven bullshit is in that article. Why would you post this republican tripe? Squinch Dec 2016 #34
I've post many pro minimum wage articles but never seem to find any from Time, WaPo, The NYT, etc think Dec 2016 #44
I call right wing BULLSHIT Warpy Dec 2016 #38
Not sure Harry Holzer deserves what he's getting paid IronLionZion Dec 2016 #39
IIRC Seattle is around 3.7% unemployment... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #40
um, fuck him, and he's wrong. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #41
77% of people aged 16-24 are adults. Iggo Dec 2016 #43
Money makes people poorer Generator Dec 2016 #48
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