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babylonsister

(172,774 posts)
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 07:04 PM Dec 2016

Americans who voted against Trump are feeling unprecedented dread and despair [View all]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-american-dread-20161220-story.html


Americans who voted against Trump are feeling unprecedented dread and despair
Dread of the Trump presidency is weighing on many American families.
Top of the Ticket cartoon (David Horsey / Los Angeles Times)
David Horsey


I have never seen anything quite like the grief being felt by the majority of American voters who did not vote for Donald Trump.

Back in 1980, there was disappointment among Democrats when Ronald Reagan won. In 2000, after the long Florida recount and the intrusion of the Supreme Court into the decision, there were plenty of upset people who thought Al Gore, not George W. Bush, deserved to be president. But the losing voters in those elections were not despondent. They were not breaking out in tears weeks later. They were not waking up each morning with feelings of dread about what was to come.

This time it is different and, in my experience, unique. This is not simply a case of Hillary Clinton supporters being bad losers. For most of those who feel traumatized by what happened on Nov. 8, this is not about the candidate who won the popular vote, yet lost the election. It is about the candidate who was picked as president by the electoral college on Monday. People are mourning because the fate of their country will now be in the hands of an intellectually disinterested, reckless, mendacious narcissist.

It is not just Democrats. There are plenty of conservatives and Republicans among those feeling depressed. Their party has been captured by a man who has no bedrock belief in any principle; a man whose only allegiance appears to be to himself.

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Those who are troubled by Trump’s ascendancy are almost equally distressed by the mindset of their fellow citizens who voted for him. It is understood that most Trump supporters are decent folks, many of whom have been left behind by changes in the global economy. But how can they believe some of the things they believe? In a post-election survey, the Public Policy Polling organization found that 67% of Trump voters think unemployment increased during Barack Obama’s presidency while only 20% know the opposite is actually true. Though the stock market skyrocketed to record heights during the Obama years, 60% of those who voted for Trump either do not know it or do not believe it. Forty percent of Trump voters also say their candidate won the popular vote, even though Clinton now leads in the count by nearly 3 million ballots. Perhaps that is why friendly crowds at his victory rallies continue to cheer when Trump makes the obviously false claim that he won the election in a landslide. They do not know better.

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In the presidential campaign, the fears of one group of citizens morphed into a powerful anger that Trump harnessed to propel himself to the White House. Now, another set of Americans — a significantly larger group — is feeling profoundly distressed. If their fears are borne out, their anger, too, will become a political force that could upend an election yet to come.
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Well that's comforting, we "...could upend an election yet to come." rzemanfl Dec 2016 #1
an election to come? presumes there will actually be any nt msongs Dec 2016 #7
I'm not sure there will be any either. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2016 #10
I'm afraid that by any election coming up there will have been a nuclear winter madinmaryland Dec 2016 #25
I believe we cant escape this catastrophe with anything less than a worldwide Eliot Rosewater Dec 2016 #30
I'm afraid that well might be where we're headed. It will ratchet into some horrific event. At RKP5637 Dec 2016 #58
Don't Mourn, Organize brianvanwa Dec 2016 #100
Bingo CanonRay Dec 2016 #53
We are a significantly larger group. Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #2
No offense but there's a very good chance they won't allow another election. Ford_Prefect Dec 2016 #46
In the meantime MSM acting so tone deaf and like in another reality... Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #49
There are more $$$$$'s for M$M by supporting Trump. M$M is all P&L. They could care less RKP5637 Dec 2016 #57
this was about ignoring talk radio and still is certainot Dec 2016 #108
The M$M is beyond help lake loon Dec 2016 #76
not MSM bdamomma Dec 2016 #89
yeah, i quit with the MSM barbtries Dec 2016 #104
At the very minimum, look at North Carolina HAB911 Dec 2016 #80
North Carolina was said to be the template for what they plan to do and how. Ford_Prefect Dec 2016 #87
i look at it. barbtries Dec 2016 #105
Conservative assholes said Obama would implement marshal law. SpankMe Dec 2016 #93
I would not be surprised, which is why 12/19/2016 was RIP for USA Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #98
That might be, but the vote/die has been cast. Only an insurrection will change it now and I RKP5637 Dec 2016 #59
I'm with you, Madam.. I refuse to give into defeatism.. Cha Dec 2016 #75
I'm gettng over the despair and getting ready to fight eleny Dec 2016 #3
Ditto. roamer65 Dec 2016 #23
Same here, but I am very privileged...I feel the despair of others and will fight it. nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #38
they are betting on our despair bdamomma Dec 2016 #90
yep. barbtries Dec 2016 #106
This pretty much sums it up. phylny Dec 2016 #4
Yes, and I despair that I had foolishly dared to allow myself to *believe*-- Silver Gaia Dec 2016 #28
Yes my teen is keeping me from despair Generator Dec 2016 #51
Hope is with the youth! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #60
How do so many Americans NOT perceive that Trump is insane... VOX Dec 2016 #5
What is even more depressing than this article are so many of the comments in the LA times. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #18
And the LA times. Imagine other parts of this country, the hatred. It's astounding! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #61
I know! It's almost like there is an army of professional trolls just hanging out smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #73
I know a person like that Caliman73 Dec 2016 #29
People believe what they want to believe. Dulcinea Dec 2016 #79
Honestly? They were raised since birth to worship irrational authority figures. Crash2Parties Dec 2016 #107
Perhaps it is because he is the most UNFIT person to even run, never mind WIN! NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #6
Too much lead in the drinking water? zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #11
too much TV on in the houses. Too much right wing hate radio. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #14
This! Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #20
because we've not watched TV for 8 years, when we travel and happen to turn it on NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #21
Mostly true! Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #26
just preaching bdamomma Dec 2016 #92
Not as ridiculous as you might think. Girard442 Dec 2016 #62
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2016 #8
We have to hope babylonsister Dec 2016 #13
Right. H2O Man Dec 2016 #16
Stolen election perhaps? Conned by a con artist? Russian interference? Comey? ffr Dec 2016 #9
Yeppers, finally my p.o.v. encapsulated UTUSN Dec 2016 #12
This feels so accurate I'm not even sure how to respond, but Silver Gaia Dec 2016 #15
This too! smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #19
So true. So many women I know share your sentiments exactly. LuckyLib Dec 2016 #41
Yep. Nt ecstatic Dec 2016 #69
Exactly, Silver Gaia. I don't even want to vote again, but I know I will. I have lost catbyte Dec 2016 #96
He's right about republican response to trump. Paladin Dec 2016 #17
Same here. Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #32
Yet they voted for him. nt awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #66
Everything he says about Trump is, in my eyes, true of GW Bush. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #22
They don't know any better because Mr. Evil Dec 2016 #24
This is the most disappointed I have felt Trumplethinskin Dec 2016 #27
Same here. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #31
pResident-installed Agent Orange does not even give one fig about those that DID vote for him! n/t Jacob Boehme Dec 2016 #33
It is understood that most Trump supporters are decent folks, many of whom have been left behind by mdbl Dec 2016 #34
They are ignorant and angry by choice. Boomerproud Dec 2016 #45
I just love the subjectiveness of this writer. I say if you're not despaired and anxious YOHABLO Dec 2016 #35
No shit. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2016 #36
Is it any wonder? bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #37
"It is understood that most trump supporters are decent people" heaven05 Dec 2016 #39
Yes, they are racists elmac Dec 2016 #48
Tell us how you really feel! Generator Dec 2016 #50
I don't feel any more worry and fear over Trump than I did over Reagan. eggplant Dec 2016 #40
I wish I was as optimistic as you seem to be. Paladin Dec 2016 #44
Oh, don't misunderstand. eggplant Dec 2016 #71
Trmp is reagan II zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #81
Why didn't Hillary tout her Democratic predecessors accomplishments? LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #42
Did you watch the debates? She did the best anybody could have done. yardwork Dec 2016 #56
And was never called on it. nt awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #67
Hillary did. She said that everything he said was untrue. yardwork Dec 2016 #78
He won without having to state specifics, not even about that stupid wall Liberal_in_LA Dec 2016 #43
We have to stop being simply observers of the political process. Adsos Letter Dec 2016 #47
kick Dawson Leery Dec 2016 #52
Maybe I am dating myself but I found Ashcroft, Cheney and Rumsfeld a bit more distressing Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #54
Me too. I found 2000 much more frightening but Raine Dec 2016 #72
I felt despair for awhile radical noodle Dec 2016 #55
I felt dread and despair during the primaries Abq_Sarah Dec 2016 #63
Will we see another dem Truth321 Dec 2016 #64
That is EXACTLY how I feel. BigDemVoter123 Dec 2016 #65
yes! Liberal_in_LA Dec 2016 #68
It's a horrible feeling--anger, sadness, disbelief, disappointment, confusion ecstatic Dec 2016 #70
Harness that Anger.. Resist! Cha Dec 2016 #74
This idiot can't even run a casino without bankrupting it democratisphere Dec 2016 #77
And casinos are pretty much ALLOWED to rig the odds in their favor. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #85
$$$ won't be the only thing Americans will be wondering democratisphere Dec 2016 #109
I got over feeling bad for Hillary like I felt Ilsa Dec 2016 #82
Sorry, but I don't tenisfin Dec 2016 #83
"their anger, too, will become a political force" BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #84
Trump is picking his cabinet, based on HOW ATTRACTIVE THEY ARE. Paladin Dec 2016 #86
Add my name to the List. no_hypocrisy Dec 2016 #88
"They do not know better" No excuse for willful ignorance, is there? SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #91
Of course we are feeling unprecedented dread and despair. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #94
lol, I can't even get my thoughts together to okieinpain Dec 2016 #95
no doubt about that! Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #97
Perhaps trump supporters Doitnow Dec 2016 #99
I'm sure he meant to say "unpresidented." NT mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 #101
They're racists, they're screaming thugs, they're misogynists and some, I assume, are good people nt Xipe Totec Dec 2016 #102
i know i'm not entirely alone, barbtries Dec 2016 #103
K n R nm AmericanActivist Dec 2016 #110
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