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onenote

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21. Not really that much of a difference, if any
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 03:30 PM
Jun 2012

The island has largely been owned by one person or entity for 150 years, starting with Walter Gibson, who first bought up most of Lanai as an individual. His holdings ended up in the hands of the Hawaiian Pineapple Company which was essentially owned by one person, James Dole. Castle & Cooke (a corporate entity) ended up acquiring the Hawaiian Pineapple Company and renamed it the Dole Food Company. Eventually, Dole split its real estate and food operations into two companies, one with the food operations and one a real estate company. The real estate company was given the Castle & Cooke name and it was taken "private" by David Murdock. So while its technically true that Castle & Cooke, which is the seller, is a corporation, its really just Murdock. And while the reports are that Ellison is taking over ownership of the property from Castle & Cooke, its not clear at all that he's buying just the assets (the land) or if Ellison, in effect, is buying Castle & Cooke. Even if Ellison is just buying the assets, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to learn that he had set up a company to hold those assets rather than is buying them to be held in his own name as an individual.

The pineapple plantation was shut down in 1992, before the spin off of Dole Foods and Castle & Cooke and before Murdock took C&C private.

In short, there really isn't much of a difference in how the island has been owned for most of the past century and a half and certainly not for the last decade or so.

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Wealthy individuals/conglomerates politically buy whole countries, lots of land. RKP5637 Jun 2012 #1
I guess you missed the part about Lanai being privately owned for decades. onenote Jun 2012 #3
I had no clue that it was privately owned that long. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #4
I'm curious as to why you find it bothersome onenote Jun 2012 #6
Interesting! Thanks for the clarification you've done! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2012 #11
Hawaii belongs to Hawaiians, not Larry Ellison question772000 Jun 2012 #25
I take it you don't own your own home or any other land. And your history seems dubious too. onenote Jun 2012 #27
Updated it!!! Thanks!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2012 #9
castle & cooke is a corporation & the island was a pineapple plantation. ellison is one guy. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #17
Not really that much of a difference, if any onenote Jun 2012 #21
The Germans force the sale at 1% of value, recoup the initial investment by selling the Acropolis. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #7
the company store is the model for the world. we work to build their power & our wages go back HiPointDem Jun 2012 #18
Lanai.Island.Org Johonny Jun 2012 #2
That link is broken. hunter Jun 2012 #13
It seemed like a really cheap price until I read about the costs mainer Jun 2012 #5
"According to the Hawaiian legends, man-eating spirits occupied the island before that time..." hunter Jun 2012 #8
This island is very well protected B2G Jun 2012 #19
I agree with you. Private ownership has kept Lanai beautiful. mainer Jun 2012 #23
Private ownership is no guarantee of protection aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #24
The Lanai underwater Cathedrals are pretty spectacular aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #22
Sounds like a great spot for a data farm. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #10
What really burns me up Megahurtz Jun 2012 #12
I don't think Ellison is this wealthy because he's Oracle's CEO, hughee99 Jun 2012 #14
I don't begrudge people like Ellison or Gates their $$$. Yes, they are sharks... hunter Jun 2012 #15
Compared to Mitt & the whole lot raouldukelives Jun 2012 #20
well his wife said they needed a lanai dsc Jun 2012 #16
Millionaires are a sign of success. Billionaires are a sign of decay. aquart Jun 2012 #26
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