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MineralMan

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56. Yes. That is the risk, which is why

Fri Dec 23, 2016, 08:34 PM

Dec 2016

I cringe every time the idea is proposed here. I want it to be very hard to amend the Constitution, just for times like these, when Republicans are in control of federal government and so many state legislatures.

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Democratic Reforms Held Hostage To Absurd Amendment Process [View all] eniwetok Dec 2016 OP

We need more rural voters metroins Dec 2016 #1

not sure where the connection is... eniwetok Dec 2016 #2

It's only reform proof right now metroins Dec 2016 #9

so you want to game the system eniwetok Dec 2016 #10

I agree Kilgore Dec 2016 #4

I don't buy into the red/blue model eniwetok Dec 2016 #8

But it has been amended 27 times since written Kilgore Dec 2016 #3

where did I say it was impossible? eniwetok Dec 2016 #6

Fair enough Kilgore Dec 2016 #20

That is demonstrably not true. Calista241 Dec 2016 #26

Voting alone doesn't make a system democratic: REPRESENTATION DOES. eniwetok Dec 2016 #32

just wondering why you fled the thread? eniwetok Jan 2017 #66

We need a 10th Amendment solution to amending the Constitution meow2u3 Dec 2016 #5

we have to eliminate the bottlenecks... eniwetok Dec 2016 #7

I'm thinking in terms of the way state constitutional amendments are passed meow2u3 Dec 2016 #12

you lost me n/t eniwetok Jan 2017 #67

It's also confusing to me n/t meow2u3 Jan 2017 #68

the people can't learn... eniwetok Dec 2016 #11

The 17th amendment got rid of an undemocratic feature Jose Garcia Dec 2016 #13

hardly eniwetok Dec 2016 #17

It changed it by making the election of Senators more democratic. onenote Dec 2016 #44

I'm not slavish to 1787 politics eniwetok Dec 2016 #45

'I have more respect for myself.' - apparently you don't as you appear to voluntarily live in one... PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #54

was there a point hidden in... eniwetok Dec 2016 #57

The 19th amendment got rid of an undemocratic feature Jose Garcia Dec 2016 #14

it's clear you're not thinking this through eniwetok Dec 2016 #21

The 26th amendment got rid of an undemocratic feature Jose Garcia Dec 2016 #15

wrong again eniwetok Dec 2016 #22

the breakdown already covers all your "examples" eniwetok Dec 2016 #25

The 24th amendment got rid of an undemocratic feature Jose Garcia Dec 2016 #16

The 23rd amendment got rid of an undemocratic feature Jose Garcia Dec 2016 #18

wrong again eniwetok Dec 2016 #24

The 15th amendment got rid of an undemocratic feature Jose Garcia Dec 2016 #19

wrong again eniwetok Dec 2016 #23

Amending the Constitution is very deliberately difficult. MineralMan Dec 2016 #27

I have NO problems with making amendments diffucult eniwetok Dec 2016 #28

Yes. It's far from a perfect system. No question. MineralMan Dec 2016 #30

and yet if it's not reformed... eniwetok Dec 2016 #34

The GOP would pass an anti-flag burning amendment if they could streamline the process, tblue37 Dec 2016 #39

can't agree... eniwetok Dec 2016 #48

I believe there is more danger than hope in the idea of constitutional reform csziggy Dec 2016 #55

Yes. That is the risk, which is why MineralMan Dec 2016 #56

Maybe you have not read the 27 amendments. former9thward Dec 2016 #29

OF COURSE I READ THEM! eniwetok Dec 2016 #31

It is clear you have your own personal definition former9thward Dec 2016 #33

pray tell... what IS democracy? eniwetok Dec 2016 #35

and sorry.... it's not my "personal definition" eniwetok Dec 2016 #36

outstanding issues you haven't responded to... eniwetok Dec 2016 #49

It's fun to pretend someone holding a premise different than our own does so out of ignorance. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #37

I guess you have not read all the replies by the OP to others in the thread. former9thward Dec 2016 #38

I Read It As LW Sticking Up For You ProfessorGAC Dec 2016 #40

Maybe since various posts have double negatives, incuding mine, former9thward Dec 2016 #41

I Still Sense The Chicago In You! ProfessorGAC Dec 2016 #43

no... I believe it's adherence to the Civic Religion eniwetok Dec 2016 #46

sorry if you're STILL not grasping what the discussion is about. eniwetok Dec 2016 #52

Let's stop and think about this for a minute kudzu22 Dec 2016 #42

perhaps if you read the thread.. eniwetok Dec 2016 #47

But we're not a democracy as formed. We're a republic made up of states. WillowTree Dec 2016 #58

Show me where a "republic" MUST be antidemocratic... eniwetok Dec 2016 #63

It's not that I and others don't understand what you're saying. WillowTree Dec 2016 #64

here's the problem as I see it... eniwetok Dec 2016 #65

The EC and most if not all gunz should be done away with but we are hostage libtodeath Dec 2016 #50

I believe a majority wants universal background checks... eniwetok Dec 2016 #51

jose garcia fled the thread... eniwetok Dec 2016 #53

Maybe if you were more adamant about your opinion dumbcat Dec 2016 #59

on insulting intelligence... eniwetok Dec 2016 #60

Rant against reality dumbcat Dec 2016 #61

thanks for another content-free post eniwetok Dec 2016 #62