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lunatica

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48. I've suffered just as much as the "Trump supporters"

Mon Dec 26, 2016, 02:30 PM

Dec 2016

I've lost jobs but I was smart enough to re-educated myself by learning how to use a computer when I was 50 years old. At one point I had to declare bankruptcy but, because I was smart enough to educate myself on how to do it by myself I managed to keep my home. At one point I couldn't pay the mortgage and the mortgage company started foreclosure proceedings on me. I despaired, but still I educated myself and asked for a mortgage modification and got it. The result is I have a job that entails using the computer almost exclusively and I've kept my home with a much lesser mortgage payment.

I'm not different that millions who went through he same thing. You and many others act as if Democrats are some privileged people who have no idea what it is to lose jobs or homes. You keep saying we 'misunderstand' the poor Trump supporters who've lost so much, but many of us have lost just as much without laying blame on them.

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Why Trump Voters Are Not Welcome In My House This Holiday [View all] mainer Dec 2016 OP

A better approach might be to talk to them oberliner Dec 2016 #1

The views of Trump voters I know are very old and independent of anything that resembles education. gordianot Dec 2016 #4

Maybe so oberliner Dec 2016 #6

Maybe so, but I think we need to point out that they are being unpatriotic and Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #11

There should be a biennial test on the Constitution for all congress critters. JudyM Dec 2016 #51

I do not think it is a question of them being ignorant, with some notable Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #63

Great idea. Trying to educate folks on what Jesus' actual values were might be equally helpful, JudyM Dec 2016 #64

Symbolism and bombast, they never actually cared about the Constitution. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #70

The racists trump voters I know are far to Violent for Rational Thoughts. stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #14

Precisely, fuck the Fuhrer-Elect's supporters... they're not welcome within a five-mile radius of my home. They are worse than deplorable! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #24

I am not openly hostile but when asked will be truthful. gordianot Dec 2016 #15

Hmmm, I think this is going way beyond being polite to people with disagreements... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #16

Are there no nice people who voted for Trump? oberliner Dec 2016 #17

Seem to be plenty of people defending them... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #18

The article says no Trump voter will be allowed in this person's house oberliner Dec 2016 #19

Their opinion, their right... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #20

This is a discussion board, isn't it? oberliner Dec 2016 #22

Your opinion, your right....nt Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #23

oberliner, you are 100% correct Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #30

Well said. tenorly Dec 2016 #54

Thanks oberliner Dec 2016 #112

I Need A Better Filter ProfessorGAC Dec 2016 #125

I have yet to meet one DK504 Dec 2016 #26

Highly doubtful. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #25

they voted for a misogynistic, xenophobic, racist, bigoted, hate-mongering, ignorant, lying, niyad Dec 2016 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #52

I feel the same way. However, we spend Christmas at my parents' house, and Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #65

I am so sorry that you have to deal with drumpfy's followers in your parents' house. fortunately, niyad Dec 2016 #88

My brother Bayard Dec 2016 #36

So your brother STILL believes that Democrats will take away his guns despite Squinch Dec 2016 #37

Lol. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #67

If we cater to doltishness, we're dolts AND lunkheads.This guy isn't coming over from the dark side. Squinch Dec 2016 #74

Your brother must be the classic Brainstormy Dec 2016 #41

how the hell is unleashing that cretin on our War Pigs Dec 2016 #43

Nice people sometimes do foolish things oberliner Dec 2016 #109

My brother-in-law voted for Trump. femmedem Dec 2016 #87

Yet he no doubt knows that Twitler bragged openly about grabbing pussy. He no doubt Squinch Dec 2016 #101

No, I don't think so. He would have voted for Bernie over Trump, he said. femmedem Dec 2016 #103

How can you be racist out of anything but hatred?? Squinch Dec 2016 #104

Exactly oberliner Dec 2016 #113

Not a one of 'em has a problem with racism or misogyny. Your post implies that there KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #91

Of course they do oberliner Dec 2016 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #66

"disagree" means said person hates brown couches and you don't. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #35

Right. Everything now is supposedly open to opinion. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #71

Bigots are usually ignorant oberliner Dec 2016 #107

The Left shows plenty of kindness lunatica Dec 2016 #44

That seems like a generalization oberliner Dec 2016 #110

Perhaps, but not in my experience lunatica Dec 2016 #119

Following your line of thought... busterbrown Dec 2016 #47

Think of how the Charleston relatives forgave Dylan Roof oberliner Dec 2016 #111

Religious People...Follow the Bible Suggestions busterbrown Dec 2016 #122

Not every person who voted for Trump is a "relentless piece of psychopathic scum" oberliner Dec 2016 #123

I agree with You completely... busterbrown Dec 2016 #124

I'll defer to Hannah Arendt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #136

We can defeat them oberliner Jan 2017 #138

I am trying not to hate Trump supporters but they hate us DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #139

I hear ya oberliner Jan 2017 #140

Some of them do blue cat Dec 2016 #12

This isn't just a matter of a difference of opinion anymore. nini Dec 2016 #32

my feelings exactly!!!! they had plenty of choices War Pigs Dec 2016 #45

Yea.. this whole thing crossed a line with me nini Dec 2016 #55

Amen. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #61

Hear, hear! - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #96

Being kind to people is a virtue in my opinion oberliner Dec 2016 #114

Well good luck with that nini Dec 2016 #115

Talk to them? I wouldn't waste the spit if they were on fire. Fuck them, fuck their shit, Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #83

This is terrible oberliner Dec 2016 #106

They lost their humanity in my eyes the second they voted Nazi Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #116

Your DU name is "Feeling the Bern" oberliner Dec 2016 #120

Drop it. Just because I feel the bern doesn't mean I support nazis Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #127

OK oberliner Dec 2016 #128

Just wanted to pop in and thank you femmedem Dec 2016 #117

You are welcome oberliner Dec 2016 #121

trump voters by and large don't feel heaven05 Dec 2016 #129

That's not true oberliner Dec 2016 #130

subset, whole set heaven05 Dec 2016 #131

I was quoting Hillary Clinton oberliner Dec 2016 #132

and...... heaven05 Dec 2016 #133

Not sure how being on the side of Hillary and Bernie is so problematic oberliner Dec 2016 #134

nice attempt at diversion heaven05 Jan 2017 #135

There is no diversion oberliner Jan 2017 #137

Anyone that voted for cheato is a enemy of decency. libtodeath Dec 2016 #2

You want 60 million Americans to suffer miserably? oberliner Dec 2016 #5

73.28% of the 60 million are Rooskies hackers* griloco Dec 2016 #7

They voted for racism and oppression libtodeath Dec 2016 #8

I agree with you. Not at all pipi_k Dec 2016 #42

I'll feel sorry for the kid. BlueStater Dec 2016 #62

Do you want them to avoid accountability? lunatica Dec 2016 #46

+Infinity! - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #94

They should certainly be accountable oberliner Dec 2016 #108

I'm not arguing with that lunatica Dec 2016 #118

Sorry, but they are going to suffer miserably.... paleotn Dec 2016 #85

This is what a civil war (mosly cold so far) looks like. Most of that KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #97

No, obviously I don't want that. That's why I voted for Hillary. But now I am certain Squinch Dec 2016 #102

yes heaven05 Jan 2017 #141

Problem is, they're going to take the rest of us and the planet down with them. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #34

if someone has to have personal close to home experience to realize how lunasun Dec 2016 #3

My husband called his brother to wish him Merry Christmas mountain grammy Dec 2016 #9

Can't blame you one iota... yesteryday, I refused to be in the same room as my brother-in-law, who voted for that racist Nazi pig tRump. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #27

Trump stood on a hill and shouted... Girard442 Dec 2016 #10

Wish I could rec this a million times. Reminds me of the KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #98

this is a very difficult discussion,but it needs to be addressed with talking wildman76 Dec 2016 #13

While you're post is logical and thoughtul mdbl Dec 2016 #21

You're SO right... these so-called "people" are lost, unreachable. No sense in taking time trying to talk rationally to deplorable scumbags. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #28

I've suffered just as much as the "Trump supporters" lunatica Dec 2016 #48

Thank you for saying that, and I'm sorry about your struggles and proud of you Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #72

The most I can manage with certain Trump voters is polite silence. Paladin Dec 2016 #29

Please don't support this. This year was the first Christmas since Obama kelly1mm Dec 2016 #33

Wow.... Mellomugwump Dec 2016 #38

We did meet with some members of the family but Christmas is the kelly1mm Dec 2016 #40

her family sucks nini Dec 2016 #56

Same here. Duppers Dec 2016 #60

Right, but just like in the House and Senate Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #69

That was my first thought when I read that post as well. Mariana Dec 2016 #73

But she was anxious to crawl back to that Aunt? Adrahil Dec 2016 #75

Not the Aunt herself but moreso the other 25-35 family memebers. Christmas is the main kelly1mm Dec 2016 #76

The other 25-35 family members Mariana Dec 2016 #77

Yeah that is why I urged that the OP and others here not support or propose such a thing. It hurts kelly1mm Dec 2016 #80

Sorry but.... Adrahil Dec 2016 #79

One they are almost all republicans, this is the old 'family' home and it is a tradition to have it kelly1mm Dec 2016 #81

Everybody has to make their own choice about Adrahil Dec 2016 #82

Again, this is why I cannot understand anyone advocationg of promoting not allowing kelly1mm Dec 2016 #86

since they would have no problem watching the rights of other Americans KingCharlemagne Dec 2016 #99

he doesn't have a point hfojvt Dec 2016 #39

plus I'm pretty upset about anyone who let this assholes be in charge of our nukes Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #49

I think it's a mistake to freeze people out kudzu22 Dec 2016 #50

Exactly! Bayard Dec 2016 #57

TOTALLY agree!!! nt Raine Dec 2016 #68

I do not believe that... Adrahil Dec 2016 #89

I'm With You TomJulie Dec 2016 #93

You forgot their Golden Rule. I have mine and the hell if you have yours. classykaren Dec 2016 #53

To those who advocate being billh58 Dec 2016 #58

I was at my brother's house for Christmas. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #59

hold firm joanbarnes Dec 2016 #78

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves. Initech Dec 2016 #84

Most Of Our In-Laws Are Trumpers TomJulie Dec 2016 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #95

I agree with you. I'm done with all Trump supporters. I know AmericanActivist Dec 2016 #100

I'm sorry, but we had a candidate coronation, not a primary. It wasn't the Russians. libdem4life Dec 2016 #126