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Atman

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75. Again, young pup, you have no clue what it is I do.

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:35 PM

Dec 2016

But thanks for using my age (which you don't know) in your hypocritical defense against me calling you a young pup.

As stated, I've worked in the guts of politics for many years. The fact that you don't know anything about me doesn't change that. I'm happy you like Chuck Schumer and like him and are paid...er, are emboldened to support him online. But this old fart is tired of seeing the same names I've seen since I was a teenager. I want some NEW BLOOD, some NEW IDEAS, some NEW ANYTHING. Republicans get an old fossil creep douche bag for a president, but he's backed up by relatively young people (in political years, aka Ryan, Rubio, etc) to advance their agenda.

Meanwhile, Democrats take their plays from an old National Geographic documentary and keep going to the ancient party elders for their sage wisdom -- the same "sage wisdom" which has brought us continuous losses over and over again.

Get over the age bullshit. Oh, the irony. I'm an old guy telling you young pups to wake the fuck up and realize that our party, our movement (oops, us old guys don't like to say movement), is getting totally Trumped.

If I jump, you need to go with me. I'm tired of paid party staff member telling us we need to just toe the line and keep doing it the way we've always done it. That strategy clearly hasn't worked.

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Chuck Schumer just wants to get along. [View all] Atman Dec 2016 OP

He better beware... Historic NY Dec 2016 #1

Schumer doesn't have much of a choice Lurks Often Dec 2016 #2

I am afraid you are right. Protesting everything won't play well long-term. Trying to reshape Hoyt Dec 2016 #4

Worked just fine for the Republicans, didn't it? truebluegreen Dec 2016 #41

They were in better position than Democrats, check out the numbers and who controls each branch now. Hoyt Dec 2016 #42

I doubt that standing up will hurt us. truebluegreen Dec 2016 #57

Looking like a bunch of helpless fools yelling at the sky won't do a lot of good. Hoyt Dec 2016 #65

So is Roll Over Beethoven your favorite song? truebluegreen Dec 2016 #80

Don't you step on my blue suede shoes Hoyt Dec 2016 #84

It's hard for the new underground Democrats... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #5

"New underground Democrats" Act_of_Reparation Dec 2016 #17

What 'shitty' policy? yallerdawg Dec 2016 #18

You think the GOP is going to propose not-shitty policies? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2016 #46

End NAFTA. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #53

You'll have to pardon me if I remain skeptical that those will ever make it to the table. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2016 #60

Im here since 2004, and we need to kick Schumer into gear adigal Dec 2016 #85

You do realize it's about to get even bleaker. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #86

So we should all go hide? Trump is going tobe so horribke, 2018 will be a bloodbath adigal Dec 2016 #89

We should get smart and support the Democrats we have. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #91

Schumer has a choice & it is not doing the same thing again that got Dems in the position they are Alekzander Dec 2016 #6

Go along to get along. Atman Dec 2016 #8

Depends on Schumer and what the legislation is Lurks Often Dec 2016 #12

If a frog could fly it wouldn't bump his ass a'hoppin. Atman Dec 2016 #15

Ok, you have your view and I have mine Lurks Often Dec 2016 #16

So, if you KNOW you're going to lose anyway, why not FIGHT? Atman Dec 2016 #19

That only works if the majority of the public believes in Schumer Lurks Often Dec 2016 #20

Wait, WHAT? "Obstructionist" seemed to work for McConnell. Atman Dec 2016 #22

Because McConnell had the House of Representatives to support him Lurks Often Dec 2016 #23

And never forget the MSM, who enables the GOP at every opportunity CakeGrrl Dec 2016 #26

You're so right... but, do not underestimate Bernie's will to fight. Move over Schumer, there's a new sheriff in town! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #82

You are right, this is the year we should have taken over the Senate. Jim Beard Dec 2016 #52

And only 6 seats in the House and lost 2 more governors races Lurks Often Dec 2016 #72

We must go all out for the midterms in 2018. House or Senate, lets go!!! Jim Beard Dec 2016 #92

Play nice in hopes that the GOP will reciprocate? guillaumeb Dec 2016 #76

That, is seen as a major sign of weakness to be taken advantage of and in Trump's eye's RKP5637 Dec 2016 #3

+1, Schumer doesn't understand predatory people at all ... this is what's disappointed about him uponit7771 Dec 2016 #9

The senior Senator from NY doesn't understand predation? That's hilarious. TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #39

Yes... If he thinks he can work with one he doesn't understand them uponit7771 Dec 2016 #74

You're correct though. Trump will see it as weaknees, as already caving in. Solly Mack Dec 2016 #34

that's a gross over-simplification of his views and statements, so far bigtree Dec 2016 #7

I agree. It's gross. Atman Dec 2016 #10

what you wrote isn't true bigtree Dec 2016 #11

Perhaps Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren should present these tweets in an interview. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #21

it's an appropriate response to the rhetoric of the op bigtree Dec 2016 #28

I know. I get it. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #33

okay, thought that's what you were getting at bigtree Dec 2016 #37

You don't have a freakin' clue for what and for whom I have fought. Atman Dec 2016 #50

Clearly you don't either. This post says as much. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #66

What insults? Where am I talking out of my ass? Atman Dec 2016 #69

"Young pup" What patronizing bullshit. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #70

Again, young pup, you have no clue what it is I do. Atman Dec 2016 #75

Get over the age bullshit? You don't even know my fucking age. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #77

Just shows the Democratic Party has learned not one fuckin' thing. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #13

We've learned one thing... how to fuck ourselves over by trying to compromise with Rethugs. I say enough's enough!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #81

Let the fu*%ers own the intolerant middle/working class screwing legislation they pass Freethinker65 Dec 2016 #14

Typical wimps Thrill Dec 2016 #24

This is deceptive and a gross generelaztion brought about with little or no backup. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #25

We need a little less Chuck Schumer and a little more Walter Sobchack when dealing with Trump & Co. Miles Archer Dec 2016 #27

I couldnt agree more. Well, I dont know enough about what Schumer actually Eliot Rosewater Dec 2016 #78

I'm sorry, but fuck that! smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #29

Where did that ever get us? Leaving the vultures who scammed, cheated, shraby Dec 2016 #30

My money's on Schumer for the moment. He's a shrewd politico. lapucelle Dec 2016 #31

+1. I think shrewdness/canniness are all we really have right now. Hoyt Dec 2016 #67

Have to keep the powder dry RandiFan1290 Dec 2016 #32

There's no point in rocking the boat. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #35

You're right! brutus smith Dec 2016 #36

You don't remember Pelosi in the first two years of Obama, do you? This... TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #38

"...and can get what he wants." Atman Dec 2016 #40

You really don't get the difference between "rolling over" and making the best of a losing hand... TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #43

No. I'm totally new to this politics stuff. Atman Dec 2016 #45

Simply because you're wrong about assuming we're giving them everything they want... TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #48

Here's another way to look at it...Since we CAN'T WIN, FIGHT! Atman Dec 2016 #47

Lose the battle, win the war. TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #49

Or just keep losing, losing, then losing some more. Atman Dec 2016 #51

Same thing over and over brutus smith Dec 2016 #58

He's My Senator Also Me. Dec 2016 #54

I said I have issues with him-- and that's one of them. TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #55

Then I Would Say Me. Dec 2016 #63

I think people care more about instant gratification more than actually clawing our way back. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #83

Agitate, agitate, agitate... pressbox69 Dec 2016 #44

This says it all.. pkdu Dec 2016 #56

Careful, or you'll be branded "Far Left" around here. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #59

Goodbye Democracy! Generator Dec 2016 #61

This reminds me of how cooperating worked so well in GERMANY during the 1930's any similarities... FreeStateDemocrat Dec 2016 #62

If I said what I think about doc03 Dec 2016 #64

I know someone who works with a very well known senator nini Dec 2016 #68

he's already on the trump team concerning israeli settlements....fuck chuck spanone Dec 2016 #71

They may need middle of the road republican azmom Dec 2016 #73

Contact your Senators and Representatives Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #79

Chuck just wants to keep dining at the trough HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #87

I'm taking a wait and see approach with Chuck. Tatiana Dec 2016 #88

Well he should get along and .. coco22 Dec 2016 #90