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9. Many Trump supporters aren't racist or sexist.

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:12 PM

Dec 2016

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I do not believe that most of the people who are thinking about voting for Mr. Trump are racist or sexist.

https://twitter.com/berniesanders/status/794941635931099136?lang=en

Also see the other part of HRC's "basket of deplorables" speech:

But the other basket -- and I know this because I see friends from all over America here -- I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas -- as well as, you know, New York and California -- but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-transcript-clinton-s-full-remarks-as-1473549076-htmlstory.html

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At this point, I am disassociating myself from people who voted for Trump. [View all] MineralMan Dec 2016 OP

Never tolerated Republicans. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #1

I have tolerated Republicans. MineralMan Dec 2016 #2

I seriously wonder how any R gets elected to any office in this country. stopbush Dec 2016 #4

It's hard to understand, isn't it? MineralMan Dec 2016 #8

Actually, it is not hard to understand at all. tblue37 Dec 2016 #23

Thank you tblue37. This is a very clear, succinct... prairierose Dec 2016 #42

The reason for this is that these billionaires do it because it pays their bottom line. Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #45

Precisely. To a right wing oligarch, the costs are like investing in lobbyists or tblue37 Dec 2016 #66

Very well laid out and very true. Thx tblue37. Hekate Dec 2016 #78

There's a simple reason, really. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2016 #11

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Once, I was optimistic. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2016 #34

Modern TV has ruined millions of minds. 7962 Dec 2016 #94

A popular sentiment, but I don't think that's the case. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2016 #98

My perspective is from the South. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #3

I'd have to disassociate from my entire immediate family. I don't see that beaglelover Dec 2016 #6

That's one of pipi_k Dec 2016 #10

Thats a GOOD weird! 7962 Dec 2016 #95

Morally bankrupt, no critical thinking skills, and usually arrogant about their deplorable behavior! FreeStateDemocrat Dec 2016 #7

Same here. Duppers Dec 2016 #109

Many Trump supporters aren't racist or sexist. oberliner Dec 2016 #9

But Trump is. If you vote for a racist and a bigot, MineralMan Dec 2016 #13

I am just sharing what Bernie and Hillary have said on the subject oberliner Dec 2016 #19

Here's the thing: I form my own opinion and MineralMan Dec 2016 #21

Understood oberliner Dec 2016 #24

They couldn't have voted for someone who wants to persecute whole categories pnwmom Dec 2016 #37

FDR put Japanese-Americans into internment camps oberliner Dec 2016 #50

I would say that that was a different era and anyone today who would pnwmom Dec 2016 #51

So the people that supported Japanese internment in the 1940s were not bigoted? oberliner Dec 2016 #56

They were part of a whole culture that, yes, was bigoted. pnwmom Dec 2016 #61

What about people who voted for Bill Clinton? oberliner Dec 2016 #63

Poke poke poke. Keep at it till you get the response you want? Hekate Dec 2016 #81

I think my point is a reasonable one oberliner Dec 2016 #86

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #96

That was 21 years ago and we have moved beyond that now too. pnwmom Dec 2016 #99

Maybe some Trump voters will move beyond their bigotry in 21 years oberliner Dec 2016 #101

I think many of them are beyond redemption. They have an inflexible, authoritarian pnwmom Dec 2016 #102

I agree with you oberliner Dec 2016 #115

Careful now... nil desperandum Dec 2016 #53

So he did. I wasn't around in FDR's time. MineralMan Dec 2016 #69

So you would still vote for someone who put Japanese-Americans into internment camps? oberliner Dec 2016 #88

Dump NEVER made a secret of his many prejudices NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #60

"I lack respect for people who do not vote . . . based on thinking and information" Uponthegears Dec 2016 #76

YES, YES, YES!!! Bayard Dec 2016 #27

They are certainly not only OK with it Bettie Dec 2016 #32

Bernie's wrong about this. Anyone who's willing to support a racist, pnwmom Dec 2016 #35

Oh bullshit. They voted FOR racism and misogyny making it a Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #80

Some of them are nice people or good people oberliner Dec 2016 #87

Good people do not vote for Grab 'Em By The Pussy sexual assulters. Period. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #89

Yes, they do oberliner Dec 2016 #90

No. They don't. For you to say that people people who vote for pussy-grabbing racists are GOOD Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #105

Of course they do oberliner Dec 2016 #114

I do too. cwydro Dec 2016 #91

You think roughly half of voting americans ate just plain evil? dionysus Dec 2016 #116

Dropped several friends and I'm sorry to say my brother too maxrandb Dec 2016 #12

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It is like when someone says Bettie Dec 2016 #33

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So, have you often heard those words Bettie Dec 2016 #55

I made a huge announcement that they were all obviously lacking a moral compass sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #14

I'm not much on rubbing people's faces in things. MineralMan Dec 2016 #16

Love that screen name! nt 7962 Dec 2016 #97

I guess I am looking at this from another point of view with respect... berksdem Dec 2016 #15

I will be happy to answer questions from people I MineralMan Dec 2016 #18

yes, and I do not disagree... berksdem Dec 2016 #29

I don't blame the people who voted for Trump lunatica Dec 2016 #20

Non-voters have never had any respect from me. MineralMan Dec 2016 #22

very good point... berksdem Dec 2016 #31

No Trump voters - No Stein Voters The Polack MSgt Dec 2016 #25

This right here JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #44

I ask and if they say they did WhiteTara Dec 2016 #26

Somehow I doubt they will care. ileus Dec 2016 #30

You may well be right, but I DO care. MineralMan Dec 2016 #70

I was surprised a few days ago... hunter Dec 2016 #38

Find out what caused his rebound, model it, test it, and market it. ffr Dec 2016 #41

Good point, anyone who is proud of voting for Trump is truly a Deplorable. Hoyt Dec 2016 #39

This is not a strategy to win. Us vs Them is a tool of the divisive right, and I won't use it. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #40

Exactly my process too...... dawnie51 Dec 2016 #43

I'm doing my best. In-laws are not welcome back into my home, sad to say. Tatiana Dec 2016 #46

Would you disown your kids over it? HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #74

Yes. It's a huge mistake in judgment. Tatiana Dec 2016 #107

K & R SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #47

It is an absolute deal breaker. byronius Dec 2016 #48

Will they know they've been shunned? cwydro Dec 2016 #49

I can't say. If they ask me why I'm no longer MineralMan Dec 2016 #71

I don't have to dissociate myself. The Trumpeteers amongst my family and acquaintances lambchopp59 Dec 2016 #52

I started disassociating when "friends" identified themselves as proud mnhtnbb Dec 2016 #54

I feel the same way. mountain grammy Dec 2016 #57

I'm not going to do that. Throd 2.0 Dec 2016 #58

They voted for one . . . hatrack Dec 2016 #106

Me too. BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #59

No doubt nil desperandum Dec 2016 #62

If they voted for anyone but Hillary, or did not vote. They get the oasis Dec 2016 #64

what is really sad Dan Dec 2016 #65

I did rtracey Dec 2016 #67

Understandable La Coliniere Dec 2016 #68

Just Curious Bayard Dec 2016 #72

I have no children. MineralMan Dec 2016 #73

My 29 year old son did. ReformedGOPer Dec 2016 #83

Same here Gothmog Dec 2016 #75

"There was no question about who Donald Trump is and what he stands for, long before the election." Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #77

Would those who agree feel the same if Hillary had won? MichMan Dec 2016 #79

Understandable. We are over 300 mil;at least 30 mil are authoritarians by personality delisen Dec 2016 #82

Real life does not have an Ignore List. rug Dec 2016 #84

Well, almost all of my closest friends are conservative Republicans - I'm not throwing away 20+ year Midwestern Democrat Dec 2016 #85

and rtracey Dec 2016 #111

Same here Mineral Man. nm AmericanActivist Dec 2016 #92

You need a 'Trump Free Zone' t-shirt Angry Dragon Dec 2016 #93

I'm not but they're doing it to me on social media. MadamPresident Dec 2016 #100

No trump voters in my immediate circle but I am still pissed at those who couldn't vote for Hillary lunasun Dec 2016 #103

Same here. BigDemVoter Dec 2016 #104

I'm 100% with you on this jimlup Dec 2016 #108

yep, done that heaven05 Dec 2016 #110

At this point, I am disassociating myself from people who voted for Trump..AND usaf-vet Dec 2016 #112

I see. Well, OK then... MineralMan Dec 2016 #113