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In reply to the discussion: At this point, I am disassociating myself from people who voted for Trump. [View all]tblue37
(68,438 posts)23. Actually, it is not hard to understand at all.
I posted this comment on another thread to offer some explanation of Republicans' electoral success:
The Republicans play the long game. One aspect of that is the willingness of right wing oligarchs to invest in communication channels and think tanks, as well as funding candidates, activists and activist groups, and party offices at all levels. They fund candidates for every office, no matter how local and insignificant, and those GOP candidates often run unopposed!
Those local and state politicians make their bones, gain invaluable political skills, and establish national profiles, thus becoming familiar to potential voters, many of whom vote largely on name recognition.
Unlike the Democratic Party, the GOP always has a lot of new talent in the pipeline because they actively cultivate their future officeholders, funding them, training/mentoring them, and providing them with opportunities to present themselves to politically active party members and to the general public.
Wealthy right wingers are true believers, willing to keep funding their RW media, even if they take a loss on some of them.
The GOP has most of the billionaires willing to commit to long term funding of political activism: the Koch brothers, the late Richard Mellon Scaife, Sheldon Addelson, Rupert Murdoch, the Mercers (i.e., Cheato's main wealthy supporters), etc.
Juan Cole once wrote an essay about how after completing his PhD he watched his RW classmates get recruited for well paid jobs at right wing think tanks or on Republican politicians' staffs, while he struggled to find any sort of decently paid work.
We have most of the really popular entertainers, but they tend to be multimillionaires, not billionaires, and many of them can barely afford to maintain their own lavish lifestyles and entourages. They donate to some high profile candidates, mostly for national offices, but ignore the need to build party & political infrastructure. They lack the intense political understanding and involvement and the money
to play the long game the way the RW billionaires do.
Usually liberal movie stars or other entertainers, like athletes or musicians, will focus on raising awareness and funding for a pet cause, only turning their attention to elections every four years, and then almost exclusively to presidential elections. Think, for example, of George Clooney's focus on Darfur, except for his Hollywood fundraising parties for Democratic presidential candidates.
George Soros is the main politically savvy billionaire on our side willing to invest in infrastructure for long term goals, but his political attention (and money) is spread around the world, in efforts to promote democratic/liberal goals in many different countries.
Those local and state politicians make their bones, gain invaluable political skills, and establish national profiles, thus becoming familiar to potential voters, many of whom vote largely on name recognition.
Unlike the Democratic Party, the GOP always has a lot of new talent in the pipeline because they actively cultivate their future officeholders, funding them, training/mentoring them, and providing them with opportunities to present themselves to politically active party members and to the general public.
Wealthy right wingers are true believers, willing to keep funding their RW media, even if they take a loss on some of them.
The GOP has most of the billionaires willing to commit to long term funding of political activism: the Koch brothers, the late Richard Mellon Scaife, Sheldon Addelson, Rupert Murdoch, the Mercers (i.e., Cheato's main wealthy supporters), etc.
Juan Cole once wrote an essay about how after completing his PhD he watched his RW classmates get recruited for well paid jobs at right wing think tanks or on Republican politicians' staffs, while he struggled to find any sort of decently paid work.
We have most of the really popular entertainers, but they tend to be multimillionaires, not billionaires, and many of them can barely afford to maintain their own lavish lifestyles and entourages. They donate to some high profile candidates, mostly for national offices, but ignore the need to build party & political infrastructure. They lack the intense political understanding and involvement and the money
to play the long game the way the RW billionaires do.
Usually liberal movie stars or other entertainers, like athletes or musicians, will focus on raising awareness and funding for a pet cause, only turning their attention to elections every four years, and then almost exclusively to presidential elections. Think, for example, of George Clooney's focus on Darfur, except for his Hollywood fundraising parties for Democratic presidential candidates.
George Soros is the main politically savvy billionaire on our side willing to invest in infrastructure for long term goals, but his political attention (and money) is spread around the world, in efforts to promote democratic/liberal goals in many different countries.
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At this point, I am disassociating myself from people who voted for Trump. [View all]
MineralMan
Dec 2016
OP
The reason for this is that these billionaires do it because it pays their bottom line.
Dustlawyer
Dec 2016
#45
Precisely. To a right wing oligarch, the costs are like investing in lobbyists or
tblue37
Dec 2016
#66
Morally bankrupt, no critical thinking skills, and usually arrogant about their deplorable behavior!
FreeStateDemocrat
Dec 2016
#7
So the people that supported Japanese internment in the 1940s were not bigoted?
oberliner
Dec 2016
#56
I think many of them are beyond redemption. They have an inflexible, authoritarian
pnwmom
Dec 2016
#102
So you would still vote for someone who put Japanese-Americans into internment camps?
oberliner
Dec 2016
#88
"I lack respect for people who do not vote . . . based on thinking and information"
Uponthegears
Dec 2016
#76
Good people do not vote for Grab 'Em By The Pussy sexual assulters. Period.
Maru Kitteh
Dec 2016
#89
No. They don't. For you to say that people people who vote for pussy-grabbing racists are GOOD
Maru Kitteh
Dec 2016
#105
I made a huge announcement that they were all obviously lacking a moral compass
sarah FAILIN
Dec 2016
#14
This is not a strategy to win. Us vs Them is a tool of the divisive right, and I won't use it.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2016
#40
I don't have to dissociate myself. The Trumpeteers amongst my family and acquaintances
lambchopp59
Dec 2016
#52
"There was no question about who Donald Trump is and what he stands for, long before the election."
Maru Kitteh
Dec 2016
#77
Understandable. We are over 300 mil;at least 30 mil are authoritarians by personality
delisen
Dec 2016
#82
Well, almost all of my closest friends are conservative Republicans - I'm not throwing away 20+ year
Midwestern Democrat
Dec 2016
#85
No trump voters in my immediate circle but I am still pissed at those who couldn't vote for Hillary
lunasun
Dec 2016
#103
At this point, I am disassociating myself from people who voted for Trump..AND
usaf-vet
Dec 2016
#112