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RZM

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40. Right now I would slightly lean towards after too. But if this goes on long enough . . .

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 09:46 PM

Jun 2012

They might just cut their losses. I think the decision has been made, it's just a question of whether or not doing so before the election would hurt or help him. They're crunching the numbers 24/7 and that will guide the decision. If the polls say it would be worse to do it now, they wont. If they say it will, they will.

One thing working towards later is the issue of consistency. Shuffling your people in the middle of the campaign doesn't look good. But if Holder gets hot enough, it might be worth it.

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White House Stands By Holder On Fast And Furious [View all] ProSense Jun 2012 OP

If this is handled right, it could seriously embarrass the GOP and Issa. tabatha Jun 2012 #1

there is nothing on Earth that apparently embarrasses Issa Johonny Jun 2012 #2

Not a good idea. bvar22 Jun 2012 #3

Bullshit! n/t ProSense Jun 2012 #4

Bullshit? Really? bvar22 Jun 2012 #7

Yes, bullshit ProSense Jun 2012 #8

So this is what's left when you strip away whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #19

Tags: ProSense Jun 2012 #22

Ha, look who's talking! whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #24

Wow ProSense Jun 2012 #26

You're the only one looking forward to that whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #30

Yeah, ProSense Jun 2012 #33

Why so touchy lately? girl gone mad Jun 2012 #62

Oh, I Agree, bvar22 Jun 2012 #20

Again ProSense Jun 2012 #21

Now THAT is odd. bvar22 Jun 2012 #29

What? ProSense Jun 2012 #31

Agreed. nt AverageJoe90 Jun 2012 #56

We need to fight every battle. I am sick of keeping powder dry. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #59

Fight every battle? bvar22 Jun 2012 #67

Holder was appointed by the Pres. He is doing what the president wants. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #68

Why didn't they 'fuck Issa' when he put forward his egregious and unconstitutional bill of attainder sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #27

Yes, ProSense Jun 2012 #35

Wow, you have such a narrow focus that you totally missed the point. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #72

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #9

Well don't hold back.. tell us how you *really* feel! Ghost in the Machine Jun 2012 #11

I am soooo pissed off at these purity posts rufus dog Jun 2012 #13

They really are absurd. Holder is quietly kucking ass just Solomon Jun 2012 #18

Yeah, fuck that purity shit! I want a lyin-ass tainted government! whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #36

Then go after ISSA (Breitbart Jr) emulatorloo Jun 2012 #54

Issa's a douche spillway whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #64

Not just cut loose Dokkie Jun 2012 #23

And if Obama were in the mood to appease Republicans, wouldn't he simply JDPriestly Jun 2012 #65

Yep...Just Play Right Into Issa Hands... KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #5

I am certainly not a Holder fan, but now isnt the time to throw him under the bus. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #57

Listen to the first hour of Randi Rhodes show on 06/20/2012. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #63

Watch the first segment from yesterday's Jon Stewart Daily Show. bvar22 Jun 2012 #71

The Repubs believe Obama is an easy mark... kentuck Jun 2012 #6

Obama becomes an easy mark with the help of Democrats who are fucking ignorant rufus dog Jun 2012 #10

I hope you said the same about ACORN and all the other under the bus gang. TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #14

No. Fuck Issa! n/t ProSense Jun 2012 #15

Yup, fuck him with a rusty dumpster but fuck Holder stands too. TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #47

In fact I did rufus dog Jun 2012 #16

That is good and decent, Rufus, but you know many of the most forceful defenders TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #70

Rule of Law = 'purity' sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #46

"Obama becomes an easy mark with the help of Democrats who are fucking ignorant" bvar22 Jun 2012 #51

I detest Holder Aerows Jun 2012 #12

+1 nt TBF Jun 2012 #17

Fine! Throw it back in Issa's lap! bvar22 Jun 2012 #32

Can't stand Holder Aerows Jun 2012 #34

The problem with THAT strategy... bvar22 Jun 2012 #52

Isn't re-electing Obama more important than Holder surviving? Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #25

You should ProSense Jun 2012 #28

So he says now. This is just the first round of volleys RZM Jun 2012 #37

After Aerows Jun 2012 #39

Right now I would slightly lean towards after too. But if this goes on long enough . . . RZM Jun 2012 #40

Dump him now. Issue goes away. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #41

Does that outweigh the weakness it shows? I don't know. I'll leave that to the strategists RZM Jun 2012 #42

This one actually ProSense Jun 2012 #43

OK. I'll concede that reasonable people can differ on this. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #44

I only wish ProSense Jun 2012 #45

So this is where Dems draw a line in the sand? girl gone mad Jun 2012 #66

You GO, girl gone mad!!! bvar22 Jun 2012 #69

I can't agree with that. A resignation would be a kind of admission of guilt. Marr Jun 2012 #75

Is this a joke? BklnDem75 Jun 2012 #76

I can't stand Holder Aerows Jun 2012 #38

Hey, I don't know if you knew... Scootaloo Jun 2012 #73

Two weeks until the President refers to Holder a "over-zealous in his defense of liberty" slackmaster Jun 2012 #48

It's OK when our side does it!!! Odin2005 Jun 2012 #49

Jon Stewart summed up my feelings exactly about this growing embarrassment... bvar22 Jun 2012 #50

like it or not, the admin now owns this issue frylock Jun 2012 #53

And the issue is ISSA claims this is Obama's secret plot to take away your guns! emulatorloo Jun 2012 #55

+1 Spot on. n/t FSogol Jun 2012 #58

Issa is a jerk. I am embarrassed to say... YvonneCa Jun 2012 #60

yes, issa is a lying jerk.. frylock Jun 2012 #61

If the White House had stood by Shirley Sherrod, Van Jones, ACORN, Unions, Marr Jun 2012 #74