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86. Because of ivory-tower mealy-mouthed identity politics - nt

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Americans favor liberal policies, so why do we lose? [View all] Willie Pep Dec 2016 OP

We're viewed as wimps. Snowflakes. tecelote Dec 2016 #1

Spot on brutus smith Dec 2016 #10

Thank you! hamsterjill Dec 2016 #13

A knife would be a big improvement Cosmocat Dec 2016 #26

Most of them have except Bernie. The one least likely looking to win an actual fight. Jim Beard Dec 2016 #43

Al Franken Cosmocat Dec 2016 #62

Tony Bourdain for DNC chair.. pangaia Dec 2016 #51

That is about it Cosmocat Dec 2016 #61

Good for you! I said something like that the other day and my post was hidden as being RKP5637 Dec 2016 #53

There are some on DU who insist that we must learn to "get along" with Republicans hamsterjill Dec 2016 #55

The GOP has for a long time been better Sherman A1 Dec 2016 #2

Exactly. Better messaging. Squinch Dec 2016 #7

In my three decades of adult life I have gotten past a VERY naive belief Cosmocat Dec 2016 #27

Harry Reid. the_sly_pig Dec 2016 #3

The Republicans are much more organised at state and local level, they Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #4

All politics is local and the GOP has been excellent at targeting that Trekologer Dec 2016 #44

One word: Media lake loon Dec 2016 #5

Yes but the DEMS need to COMMUNICATE. It is THEIR communication that truly stinks! RBInMaine Dec 2016 #14

But how do they communicate ... lake loon Dec 2016 #16

The Republicans play the long game. One aspect of that is the tblue37 Dec 2016 #41

Locally, one-on-one if necessary Trekologer Dec 2016 #45

YEP Cosmocat Dec 2016 #28

BECAUSE THE KGOPB FUCKING CHEATS AND THE DEMS ROLL OVER AND HONE THEIR MESSAGE INSTEAD OF LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #6

+1 hamsterjill Dec 2016 #15

the game is definitely rigged; no amount of "message honing" will change that. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #75

and if we let their shit slide, it's only going to get worse. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #84

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #83

Republicans are fueled by greed, self-centeredness and democratisphere Dec 2016 #8

YEP Cosmocat Dec 2016 #29

Most of the people who claim to be conservative.. coco22 Dec 2016 #9

Because a lot of idiots are single-issue voters. nt raccoon Dec 2016 #11

Yep +1000000000 JHan Dec 2016 #65

Define message brutus smith Dec 2016 #12

Remember Soxfan58 Dec 2016 #17

Because the other side cheats and lies. Botany Dec 2016 #18

Money backs those who don't favor liberal policies. jalan48 Dec 2016 #19

RIGHT Cosmocat Dec 2016 #31

Waiting in the wings is environmental collapse with the accompanying shortages of food and water. jalan48 Dec 2016 #37

Money backs strong republicans and weak democrats. aidbo Dec 2016 #50

Money backs those who will vote for its interests. jalan48 Dec 2016 #56

i.e. Strong republicans who stand up for money's interests.. aidbo Dec 2016 #59

I guess it depends on the the individual candidates and their backers. jalan48 Dec 2016 #63

Russia is actually a perfect example of this; Putin's corruption makes Trump's look like child's pla TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #76

Yep. Modern Oligarchs. jalan48 Dec 2016 #80

They favor those policies, but not for 'them' n2doc Dec 2016 #20

They say that because JFK cut tax rates and made a big speech about it, 7962 Dec 2016 #21

the difference is the JFK tax cuts were not designed to lose money... eniwetok Dec 2016 #74

Before 1964, the Democratic Party offered them liberal economic policies ... dawg Dec 2016 #22

The intelligence of the American people is vastly overrated. Vinca Dec 2016 #23

Yep Cosmocat Dec 2016 #34

Maybe we should ask the people still trying to make the Democratic Party into "Republican Lite". HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #24

Wedge Issues superpatriotman Dec 2016 #25

Republicans have a great marketing apparatus in FOX ebbie15644 Dec 2016 #30

Propaganda works, especially when people are not able to recognize that they are tblue37 Dec 2016 #32

Democrats stand for everything, therefore they stand for nothing Chasstev365 Dec 2016 #33

gerrymandering across the country. gutting the voting rights act of 1965. spanone Dec 2016 #35

Because we keep voting for the wrong Dems vlyons Dec 2016 #36

Americans favor liberal policies FOR THEMSELVES. The issue comes when people who aren't like them RedWedge Dec 2016 #38

Because some people, cough , think other people are getting the benefits./nt DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #39

My friends and I had this conversation. OnionPatch Dec 2016 #40

Because the US of A is not a democracy dumbcat Dec 2016 #42

I agree with half your statement... Rage4Bacon Dec 2016 #60

This goes back to 1976 and the 2 Santas theory WhiteTara Dec 2016 #46

Because so many of those Americans are living in big cities oberliner Dec 2016 #47

because... myohmy2 Dec 2016 #48

Structural Impediments to Majority Rule kennetha Dec 2016 #49

Two things... liberal N proud Dec 2016 #52

Pretty much it in a nutshell n/t Strelnikov_ Dec 2016 #58

a lot of the liberal base doesn't vote Mosby Dec 2016 #54

Dedicated propaganda networks, AM Hate Radio, Faux News, in addition to Strelnikov_ Dec 2016 #57

A combination of 4 things Calculating Dec 2016 #64

Antidemocratic Government DISCOURAGES Voting eniwetok Dec 2016 #71

The lexicon of the left alienates white people Dems to Win Dec 2016 #66

Propaganda and fear Generator Dec 2016 #67

Because white rural assholes only like progressive policies as long as they dont benefit POC. libtodeath Dec 2016 #68

Because no one wants to say the truth - the majority of Americans are gullible and ignorant. unitedwethrive Dec 2016 #69

WE LOSE BECAUSE THE SYSTEM IS ANTIDEMOCRATIC... and Dems need to wake up to this fact. eniwetok Dec 2016 #70

precisely, but most dems won't even TRY to change these things. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #79

In this regard the Democratic Party is very conservative eniwetok Dec 2016 #87

Policies? What does policy have to do with politics?? many a good man Dec 2016 #72

Don't have the loyal base agincourt Dec 2016 #73

Because some people blue cat Dec 2016 #77

They have figured out that winning starts in the local and state elections. redstatebluegirl Dec 2016 #78

We don't vote for policies. We vote for people. unblock Dec 2016 #81

Because people don't vote based on policy BainsBane Dec 2016 #82

because many people are also anti gay racist sexist etc JI7 Dec 2016 #85

Because of ivory-tower mealy-mouthed identity politics - nt rumdude Dec 2016 #86