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ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
83. Florida statitics disagree with you.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 10:22 PM
Dec 2016

More blacks have been successful with the SYG defense than whites have, according to research done by the press in Florida.

I always thought that stupid law would have been on Trayvon's side if there was any justice world wide wally Dec 2016 #1
With no eye witnesses hack89 Dec 2016 #6
last man standing 'wins' spanone Dec 2016 #11
Trials are skewed towards the accused for obvious reasons hack89 Dec 2016 #13
Was it a "very weak" case or or a case of bad written law? eniwetok Dec 2016 #56
When the government witnesses undermine the government's case hack89 Dec 2016 #59
sure there was evidence... Z's OWN STATEMENTS eniwetok Dec 2016 #62
You just described a weak and poorly prosecuted case hack89 Dec 2016 #66
this is a side show.... eniwetok Dec 2016 #67
I don't believe that TlalocW Dec 2016 #23
Even if one believes Zimmerman, he still grabbed his gun, stalked and intimidated Martin, then shot Hoyt Dec 2016 #2
conversely eniwetok Dec 2016 #4
I don't think the concept of stand your ground should have applied to Zman. One shouldn't be able Hoyt Dec 2016 #7
SYG is a legal defense for gun owners... so once Z was charged... eniwetok Dec 2016 #14
SYG is too generous in a situation where a bully can grab his gun and intimidate an unarmed kid, Hoyt Dec 2016 #20
That is mercuryblues Dec 2016 #78
SYG is basically license to kill Bettie Dec 2016 #22
Z's defense didn't use SYG NobodyHere Dec 2016 #35
it didn't matter... it was still the law eniwetok Dec 2016 #48
Except he did not evoke a SYG defense hack89 Dec 2016 #43
the instructions given to the jury were consistant with SYG eniwetok Dec 2016 #49
His entire defense was that it was impossible for him to retreat hack89 Dec 2016 #51
but this becomes a catch 22 eniwetok Dec 2016 #52
Z got the benefit of the doubt because that is how justice works hack89 Dec 2016 #55
no one's ever been convicted in the death of another where there are no witnesses? eniwetok Dec 2016 #61
No. But usually the prosecutor doesn't help the accused. Nt hack89 Dec 2016 #64
you're moving the goal post... eniwetok Dec 2016 #58
There was no SYG hearing, was there? hack89 Dec 2016 #60
IT DOESN'T MATTER if SYG is part of the law... eniwetok Dec 2016 #68
So why didn't he ask for a hearing? hack89 Dec 2016 #72
ask his lawyer eniwetok Dec 2016 #76
IF Martin was on top of Zimmerman how could Zimmerman retreat? ... spin Dec 2016 #79
Who had the testosterone poisoning? eniwetok Dec 2016 #85
I think if Martin would have lived ... spin Dec 2016 #88
Zimmerman actually didn't use the SYG defense. Captain Stern Dec 2016 #54
Wrong Drumron Dec 2016 #25
You should have posted your opinion of gunners like Zman. Sorry, but the majority of gun owners, Hoyt Dec 2016 #28
Look at all those black thugs in that gun show. I can't find one. nt doc03 Dec 2016 #41
And in that last pic ... lpbk2713 Dec 2016 #42
Myself a white guy 68 years old was at a gun shop in Columbus last week. I was looking at doc03 Dec 2016 #45
You don't use apostrophes with plurals. Aristus Dec 2016 #50
Hell, if Zimmerman had stayed in his truck like the emergency operator said mythology Dec 2016 #46
I thought the evidence showed that Trayvon was not aware of the gun hack89 Dec 2016 #5
Now, how would we know that? Do you honestly think Zman -- an armed wuss -- followed Martin in dark Hoyt Dec 2016 #8
He said it was in his pocket the entire time hack89 Dec 2016 #10
I'm still trying to figure out Runningdawg Dec 2016 #26
Not sure that was what was said in court hack89 Dec 2016 #27
Z claims gun was in holster under jacket eniwetok Dec 2016 #47
He had it in a holster and he said Martin reached for his gun. Must have known, don't you think? Hoyt Dec 2016 #30
They were wrestling hack89 Dec 2016 #31
I thought he was bashing his head in at the time. Of course, he only had superficial scratches. Hoyt Dec 2016 #32
I am relying on the government eye witness hack89 Dec 2016 #33
answer the question eniwetok Dec 2016 #53
Of course he could lie hack89 Dec 2016 #57
the "witness" did not see how it started eniwetok Dec 2016 #69
It was not perverse hack89 Dec 2016 #73
but your bottom line is SYG is not to blame eniwetok Dec 2016 #77
No agenda hack89 Dec 2016 #81
and yet eniwetok Dec 2016 #86
I think you are wrong about SYG and it's role in the trial hack89 Dec 2016 #87
Trayvon WAS aware that some guy was following him csziggy Dec 2016 #15
Yet we know Trayvon lost Z hack89 Dec 2016 #17
Zimmerman told the dispatcher he had driven to the back gate csziggy Dec 2016 #19
The car was parked in the opposite direction from his house hack89 Dec 2016 #21
The transcript of Zimmerman's call says he WAS driving to the back gate csziggy Dec 2016 #36
That conversation took place at 2 on the map hack89 Dec 2016 #38
The timing does not work csziggy Dec 2016 #44
We only have Z's word eniwetok Dec 2016 #16
We have the government's witness hack89 Dec 2016 #18
Zimmerman was a typical gun nut. They dream about the day they can finally shoot someone. Oneironaut Dec 2016 #65
There are more than a few on DU who still defend the Zman as a law abiding citizen and flamin lib Dec 2016 #3
Yep. Worse, they count Zman's murdering TM as a justified use of a gun for defense. Deplorable. Hoyt Dec 2016 #9
At least "Florida Man" Michael Dunn was finally convicted (during a retrial) for murdering tblue37 Dec 2016 #12
Yes. This has always been the case, and the reason why this is usch a travesty. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #24
You're not going far enough. Trayvon had that right even without SYG. Jim Lane Dec 2016 #29
pointing a gun eniwetok Dec 2016 #71
There are two separate issues here. Jim Lane Dec 2016 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Dec 2016 #34
Zimmy was bird dogging Trayvon. lpbk2713 Dec 2016 #37
Unfortunately, only Zimmerman had murder on his mind Greybnk48 Dec 2016 #39
If Travon was white they would have burned anyone with a hispanic name or any doc03 Dec 2016 #40
Here's why SYG is a bad law - It doesn't care about what happened before the shooting. Oneironaut Dec 2016 #63
self defense.... eniwetok Dec 2016 #70
I agree and thank you. Martin responsibly feared for his life. Oneironaut Dec 2016 #75
a young black male has no ground to stand on. bullimiami Dec 2016 #80
Florida statitics disagree with you. ManiacJoe Dec 2016 #83
Silly wabbit, Stand Your Ground is for white people! backscatter712 Dec 2016 #82
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #84
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