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Loric Vilesilencer

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36. Apologists for religion and its bigotry don't WANT it to work that way.

Fri Dec 30, 2016, 10:50 AM

Dec 2016

But sorry, it does.

Singing in the choir is representing and promoting a bigoted organization in the wider world. An organization that she KNOWS is bigoted. She may have closed her mind off to that and told herself that it's just about the singing, but the fact remains.

Let's get you on record. Do you agree that the Mormon church, as characterized by its own fundamental doctrines, is sexist and bigoted? Yes or no?

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He wont care. He'll just shorten the whole event. It doesnt matter to him. 7962 Dec 2016 #12

Yes, outwardly ailsagirl Dec 2016 #52

He already says he doesn't want "A-LIST" people performing. pangaia Dec 2016 #77

Which you'd expect someone trying to save face to say. Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #113

So she's been representing a sexist, bigoted organization Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #9

she's been singing in the church choir bigtree Dec 2016 #11

Singing wouldn't be sexist or bigoted in and of itself Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #14

I think that's a slippery slope bigtree Dec 2016 #20

Belonging to a sexist, bigoted organization Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #24

you don't appear to understand or appreciate religion, in general bigtree Dec 2016 #31

Apologists for religion and its bigotry don't WANT it to work that way. Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #36

understanding religious belief is not endorsing bigtree Dec 2016 #37

Nice try at dodging every point I made Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #78

why don't you give it a rest? bigtree Dec 2016 #85

In other words Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #89

In other words, Loric Vilesilencer, you are prejudiced (prejudging another), hostile (as seen by.... Hekate Dec 2016 #104

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #101

It's not fair to compare the LDS Church to the Trump campaign. StevieM Dec 2016 #110

Have you read their scriptures? They're shockingly racist and there are almost no named women. LeftyMom Dec 2016 #116

First of all, as a recovered Mormon, sing in the Choir and singing for tRump are apples to oranges.. Raster Dec 2016 #25

The only difference is that the sexism and bigotry of the Mormon church Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #28

I agree, however, bigotry is part and parcel of most American religion... Raster Dec 2016 #63

I think we should give her a break. She had taken a very principled position. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #118

Wow. That is stunningly beautiful and a sincere interpretation of the teachings of Christ. Tatiana Dec 2016 #54

because LDS is a cult full of misogyny, racism, hatred and mass murder niyad Dec 2016 #73

the choir did this? bigtree Dec 2016 #87

the choir represents the cult, as you well understand. but, we do see what you are trying niyad Dec 2016 #90

nowhere on this thread or anywhere else have I attempted to 'absolve' the church bigtree Dec 2016 #94

That is an incredibly powerful, ethical, & humane statement to be met with such DU bigotry in return Hekate Dec 2016 #91

Not just Mormons, but religion in general. 7962 Dec 2016 #106

Such a wrong attitude treestar Dec 2016 #13

What makes you think she's "starting towards our side"? Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #18

just overly harsh treestar Dec 2016 #19

I don't blame 8 year olds Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #22

So they have until age 18 to just quit? treestar Dec 2016 #41

Your failure to answer my question is duly noted Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #46

I don't think those things are quite equal treestar Dec 2016 #48

Nice try Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #59

Sure but your are in essence treestar Dec 2016 #68

Any change will not happen Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #75

You are comparing an apple to a field of pineapples LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #83

She has sent the message Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #88

You are not asking her to do anything but its implied LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #98

Covering her ass? you're living in a fantasy world. Ms. Toad Dec 2016 #79

Amen! LAS14 Dec 2016 #67

It's the family that she was born into that led her to that choir Kolesar Dec 2016 #15

She could leave any time, if she really had the "principles" she claims to Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #17

I left an oppressive fundamentalist church at the age of 25. kickitup Dec 2016 #33

She did a small right thing Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #43

So tell us how it is that you know this particular human being so intimately that you feel.... Hekate Dec 2016 #53

Ummm...the same way that people all over this board Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #56

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Is it so hard to grasp Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #71

Ah. That explains it. Hurt feelings over other posts here. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #70

Not at all Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #72

I think I've got you loud and clear. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #80

If you think that I have hurt feelings Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #84

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her deep depression at your lack of compassion and back-patting will affect her greatly LanternWaste Dec 2016 #38

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Oh please...this woman is not bailing out the boat Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #44

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You talk as if Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #92

So if someone isn't all in we don't support them at all? Phoenix61 Dec 2016 #95

Well aren't you the special ambassador for outreach demonstrating goodwill and tolerance Hekate Dec 2016 #50

The Mormon church is sexist and bigoted Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #58

Are Mormons a special case or are you generally opposed to organized religion? el_bryanto Dec 2016 #57

The Mormon church is what's involved in the OP Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #62

No, the Mormon Tabernacle Choir is what's involved in the OP. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #65

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ffs bigtree Dec 2016 #32

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