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eniwetok

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120. all votes are cumulative

Fri Dec 30, 2016, 01:54 PM

Dec 2016

I sometimes can't believe how irrational some DUers are. So because of 70k people you assume were white rust belt workers... even is she won 3 million more votes, you're willing to say f*ck the Democratic legacy...

So pray tell Einstein... since when was ANY one group responsible for winning an election when ALL votes are cumulative? Bad example... it's like saying there's a winning home run when if not for all the runs before it, it would not win. ALL the votes matters... just a much as all those who didn't vote. So why isn't the Dem get out the vote machine to blame? Why not GOP voter suppression? Why not Dems who sat the election out?

Your choice of who to blame says more about you than the election... and your entire strategy for going forward depends on your flawed if not laughably simplistic analysis.

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Dear Hillary... Get Your Ass Out There and FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT [View all] eniwetok Dec 2016 OP

You actually think you have the stones to shame Hillary? DURHAM D Dec 2016 #1

WTF are you babbling about? eniwetok Dec 2016 #3

Not surprised that you don't even know what you did. DURHAM D Dec 2016 #4

do you always make idiotic posts? eniwetok Dec 2016 #7

She is already hard at work to build / rebuild the party. DURHAM D Dec 2016 #10

Please share a source -- perhaps others would like to know more about that. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #12

If you worked for or volunteered for her campaign DURHAM D Dec 2016 #14

Yes, I did. I worked for her and the coordinated campaign in my county. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #18

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Certainly no less entitled to an opinion, if that's all you have backing up your statement. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #27

Oh, FFS, I'm a woman, and you are being ridiculous. kickitup Dec 2016 #28

Did I address you? DURHAM D Dec 2016 #31

You didn't have to. kickitup Dec 2016 #38

Do you think you're the Queen of the forum? eniwetok Dec 2016 #51

I think your post was profoundly insulting, and Hortensis Dec 2016 #158

Thank you for that Thoughtful Response, Cha Dec 2016 #163

Been mostly away, come back and find this Hortensis Dec 2016 #169

If she was out making speeches now she'd be bashed as a sore loser.... George II Dec 2016 #175

She campaigned with local Democrats BainsBane Dec 2016 #79

Amen. LisaM Dec 2016 #88

How does that relate to the original topic? Where is Hillary now? TonyPDX Dec 2016 #99

"Where is Hillary now?" In what manner would you like her to be "out fighting" NOW??? George II Dec 2016 #134

None of them really have an answer for that, do they? Hekate Dec 2016 #149

Maybe some should pull up her 11-hour appearance before the Benghazi Committee? George II Dec 2016 #174

"campaigned," past tense. Where is she today? Meanwhile, Sen. Sanders is still fighting. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #97

Senator Sanders is on the public payroll BainsBane Dec 2016 #135

How is Sanders "still fighting" today? What is he doing except making appearances... George II Dec 2016 #136

In Burlington Vermont, he hosted a holiday dinner for at least a couple hundred seniors karynnj Dec 2016 #151

Wow. cwydro Dec 2016 #173

At least Bernie is working it and not resting on a Foundation's $$$$$ RegexReader Dec 2016 #198

You simply do not understand.... George II Dec 2016 #199

Thank you for chiming in Reince otohara Dec 2016 #204

Have you been to hillaryclinton.com since the election? George II Dec 2016 #84

Of course! But is that any way to fight President-Elect Donald Trump? TonyPDX Dec 2016 #96

this is the way its done RegexReader Jan 2017 #209

I am in full support of 'eniwetok's' post here. Equinox Moon Dec 2016 #17

She can do no right. nt DURHAM D Dec 2016 #23

At the very least she could try. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #34

Right now brutus smith Dec 2016 #41

Oh ffs Hekate Dec 2016 #146

Yeah, easy to say that RegexReader Jan 2017 #210

This thread and our comments supporting it, Equinox Moon Dec 2016 #40

exactly.... but obviously some here.... eniwetok Dec 2016 #49

January 15th - "Our First Stand: SAVE HEALTH CARE" Equinox Moon Dec 2016 #58

I would love to see her there. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #101

Oh yeah, because that has always worked so well for her from the 1990s onward. YOUR JOB... Hekate Dec 2016 #147

Now you're just putting words into others' mouths. Cha Dec 2016 #164

Amazing isn't it? tecelote Dec 2016 #202

Get your ass out there.... lapucelle Dec 2016 #205

High horse you have there. tecelote Dec 2016 #207

I'm with you, Durham D. lapucelle Dec 2016 #74

Sitting silent doesn't move us forward one inch. That's leadership? TonyPDX Dec 2016 #102

You seem to be confusing leadership with grandstanding. lapucelle Dec 2016 #109

so what do you think she should be doing? engaging in a twitter war with Trump? onenote Dec 2016 #171

I don't see any potential triron Dec 2016 #172

My point is that people should not assume that it is not happening at all lapucelle Dec 2016 #183

maybe. triron Dec 2016 #201

You call that party building?!?! Throwing Bernie and his supporters under the bus?? InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #22

LOL DURHAM D Dec 2016 #26

So, we are beneath you huh? brutus smith Dec 2016 #43

Have we met before? Hekate Dec 2016 #156

Never understood the Laughing Smilie response as some kind of answer. LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #123

How exactly did she do that? BainsBane Dec 2016 #56

The contempt is for third party spoilers, no show narcissists who weren't sufficiently "inspired" lapucelle Dec 2016 #78

You need to undergo some values clarification. eniwetok Dec 2016 #32

Well expressed. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #36

"Values clarification"-- I like that phrase panader0 Dec 2016 #67

it sounds oh so 1970's... eniwetok Dec 2016 #72

You must be careful about criticizing Clinton, even if it is well-meant constructive criticism. pangaia Dec 2016 #81

I chose a provocative title on purpose eniwetok Dec 2016 #115

+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #113

You're mistaken.. no one is "retiring gracefully".. those are your words.. Cha Dec 2016 #165

President Obama is head of the Democratic Party. BunkieBandit Dec 2016 #167

Yeah, for 3 more weeks. Ever-Green Dec 2016 #208

Whenever I ask a vital leader to help me, I tell her "get your ass out there". lapucelle Dec 2016 #206

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are you trying to sabotage the Dem legacy? eniwetok Dec 2016 #121

And yet again you complain or, to use your own word, "whine" about personal attacks.... George II Dec 2016 #138

Thanks for your post. LakeArenal Dec 2016 #19

doing what? Is she so far ahead of us we can't see what she's doing? yurbud Dec 2016 #91

She lives in Westchester, madaboutharry Dec 2016 #2

nitpickers field day eniwetok Dec 2016 #5

You have no clue what's going on.. you just want to order her around. Cha Dec 2016 #166

I'm looking forward to hearing Hillary's plans... Dems are gonna need all the troops we can muster to fight that Cheetoh-faced Nazi's racist policies. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #29

She holds no elected office citood Dec 2016 #6

she held no office when she ran for president... eniwetok Dec 2016 #9

Excellent point! Hillary still enjoys vast Democratic support... she should use it to help advance the causes of those still in office, like Bernie, who continue the good fight. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #39

"Vast Democratic support" BainsBane Dec 2016 #75

When did I say the responsibility for opposing tRump falls solely on Hillary?! We ALL have an important part to play... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #80

You just insisted she threw Sanders supporters under the bus BainsBane Dec 2016 #90

then what should she be doing? treestar Dec 2016 #52

she should be educating the public eniwetok Dec 2016 #59

Can she have more time? treestar Dec 2016 #62

if she won what kind of break would she have? eniwetok Dec 2016 #108

I'm not talking about that kind of break treestar Dec 2016 #130

I see your point... it's a good one. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #182

Now we get to the heart of it BainsBane Dec 2016 #69

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #98

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It's too early. They won't believe her message Ilsa Dec 2016 #187

Why not? If Trump can get so much mileage from Twitter, why wouldn't she? TonyPDX Dec 2016 #13

You do know he looks like a petulant fool on Twitter, right? Hekate Dec 2016 #157

She is a citizen that can help lead the resistance. Equinox Moon Dec 2016 #25

Or what? What if she doesn't? Captain Stern Dec 2016 #8

Obviously the OPer feels entitled to her service. nt DURHAM D Dec 2016 #11

who better has the right to take on Trump? eniwetok Dec 2016 #15

Exactly. What was more important? The title President, or what that stage would have TonyPDX Dec 2016 #42

I don't think she'll remain silent... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #180

She needs to pick her battles radical noodle Dec 2016 #46

Really treestar Dec 2016 #20

Woo - "Hillary 2020" jmg257 Dec 2016 #16

You're obviously not on her mailing list BainsBane Dec 2016 #66

She has kind of disappeared from public view.... Chakaconcarne Dec 2016 #24

You do know "they" have reopened WhiteTara Dec 2016 #30

What "email case"?! There is no email case. Never was. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #104

The funny thing is that while the State Department server was hacked more than once..... George II Dec 2016 #112

Yep. And no emails deemed classified at the time they were sent were on her server. None. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #117

Unless you were doing the hacking you don't know that. former9thward Dec 2016 #194

IMO her presence would do more harm than good. bowens43 Dec 2016 #33

The election was STOLEN. Trump/Putin is a traitor, Hillary is a patriot. Whose presence does harm? AnotherMother4Peace Dec 2016 #83

Thank you 'eniwetok' for this post! Equinox Moon Dec 2016 #35

Same thing happened with Gore in 2000. Just gave up. brutus smith Dec 2016 #48

Becoming a full time poweful and influential environmental activist is not giving up, lapucelle Dec 2016 #60

He gave brutus smith Dec 2016 #76

Are you arguing that Hillary should be challenging Trump for the office of president? lapucelle Dec 2016 #89

He had no recourse once the Supreme Court ruled against him. Should he have gone... George II Dec 2016 #148

It is weird considering how active most of the other candidates have been since the election HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #37

eni is absolutely right jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 #44

Thank you for posting!! Laf.La.Dem. Dec 2016 #45

On the "Between two ferns" show she did say if she lost, she would fight Trump to keep him from Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #47

2:40 into the interview eniwetok Dec 2016 #57

this time, it's VERY different! Fuck that indeed. Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #132

That was a great interview HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #127

You used strong language but I don't get why this could be interpreted as an attack against her.. JHan Dec 2016 #50

Yeah, when the focus is on Trump and the Russians it makes so much sense to change the topic seaglass Dec 2016 #53

The animosity toward Clinton has become muscle memory BainsBane Dec 2016 #61

Yup. Amazing, isn't it? mcar Dec 2016 #100

Spot on, BB. HRC "owes" them? What, to be their punching bag forever? Hekate Dec 2016 #153

"Get your ass out there?" Seriously" stopbush Dec 2016 #54

THIS bettyellen Dec 2016 #86

+1 SunSeeker Dec 2016 #106

+1000 sheshe2 Dec 2016 #139

+1001 Hekate Dec 2016 #154

EXACTLY! NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #161

By fight BainsBane Dec 2016 #55

Exactly treestar Dec 2016 #65

It is time for someone else to lead this battle. femmocrat Dec 2016 #63

Was she running to be president to "take a break"? eniwetok Dec 2016 #70

It's called empathy. femmocrat Dec 2016 #92

The Clintons have raised money over the years for down ticket candidates, she has stumped for Thinkingabout Dec 2016 #64

+ 1000 nt femmocrat Dec 2016 #93

And say what? Calista241 Dec 2016 #68

she did say, in her concession speech, that she would never quit fighting for us RussBLib Dec 2016 #71

You actually have a point. Hillary has a purpose. Perhaps it is not the one we originally thought. Tatiana Dec 2016 #73

She needs a break. HassleCat Dec 2016 #77

Where do you come off posting something ORDERING Hillary Clinton to do something? George II Dec 2016 #82

Oh good.... vi5 Dec 2016 #85

she cannot do anything without activating Hilary Hatred hysteria Skittles Dec 2016 #143

Yes. Exactly what I said. vi5 Dec 2016 #159

you're welcome! Skittles Dec 2016 #168

Hell no... SidDithers Dec 2016 #87

Well said! mcar Dec 2016 #110

+1 tammywammy Dec 2016 #118

+2 SunSeeker Dec 2016 #119

all votes are cumulative eniwetok Dec 2016 #120

But, she won't.. that's not Hillary. She'll come out Cha Dec 2016 #170

Thank you, Sid. brer cat Dec 2016 #177

Hillary Clinton gets more done for this country on a walk through the woods than most LuvLoogie Dec 2016 #95

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hmmm In_The_Wind Dec 2016 #107

Why? Wasn't she the worst thing to ever happen to the Democratic party? nini Dec 2016 #103

Weak and pathetic. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #114

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GFYS is "Go Fuck Your Self". That doesn't get hidden??... SidDithers Dec 2016 #125

I've been on two juries for posts from the same writer here at DU SticksnStones Dec 2016 #128

Yup. Can't say I disagree... SidDithers Dec 2016 #129

Indeed. BainsBane Dec 2016 #131

Interesting. Well, I'm doing my little bit. Hekate Dec 2016 #142

You tell NCTraveler to "GFYS" and then complain about faux personal attacks? George II Dec 2016 #133

All you have are insults.. come back when you can stop Cha Dec 2016 #160

As Democrat and Bernie supporter, I think we should let her be. aikoaiko Dec 2016 #124

I fully understand your question but... LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #126

And if she was out making public appearances now, they'll all* be whining.... George II Dec 2016 #137

oh my JCinNYC Dec 2016 #140

I'd like to see her stand up Red Mountain Dec 2016 #141

She already climbed up on the cross for you. You want she should hold the nails for you as well? Hekate Dec 2016 #144

Well said, Hekate! nt brer cat Dec 2016 #178

wouldn't count her out yet. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #145

She did her part. What are you doing to do your part? Squinch Dec 2016 #150

none have fought harder or lost more in the battle so far than Hillary 0rganism Dec 2016 #152

I believe that her campaign still has something on the order of $150 million remaining HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #155

She can't exactly storm the podium rbrnmw Dec 2016 #162

Thanks for your concern. n/t Lil Missy Dec 2016 #176

I know; they are sooooo concerned Hekate Dec 2016 #181

bravo! you said it perfectly. don't let Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2016 #179

What is "our side"? George II Dec 2016 #185

our side liberal dem anti-hate anti-war Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2016 #188

Who gets to define and then choose the "side"? George II Dec 2016 #190

No, he didn't say it perfectly.. all he has are insults and Cha Dec 2016 #186

Well, you know how we "lemmings" are, don't you know!!! George II Dec 2016 #189

Oh yes... we're such "lemmings"! Little miss free Cha Dec 2016 #191

Lemmings? betsuni Dec 2016 #192

I apologize for that - just can't think of Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2016 #196

Hillary is still my President and always will be... pbmus Dec 2016 #184

"Get your ass out there"? betsuni Dec 2016 #193

Not only that but she lives NORTH of NYC, not east of NYC. George II Dec 2016 #197

This is actually a pretty good test of her character. Motown_Johnny Dec 2016 #195

sorry say you post and could only think of the scene from trading places dembotoz Dec 2016 #200

OP is right Afromania Dec 2016 #203